Posted on 07/06/2011 3:29:47 PM PDT by macquire
CBS has taken some interest in the last month or two:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20077264-10391695.html?tag=mncol;lst;2
Anybody remember this, from just last month???
How American Guns Proliferate in Mexico and Fuel Drug Violence
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2744904/posts
Except that Hillary is in this, too, up to her neck. She was the most visible proponent of the propaganda meme that started it all, put in place during the President of Mexico's visit to the Obama White House, that all that dreadful Mexican gun violence was the fault of American arms dealers, and that most guns owned by the cartels came from the U.S. Which was a flat out lie. But she said it again and again on the major networks, and the media helped spread it everywhere. So if Obama were forced out by this scandal, then Hillary would be vulnerable to replaying those videos.
truthguy, normally I just ignore stupid posts, but I’m calling you on this one.
If you had to “struggle to find the story,” you can’t read.
I don’t believe for one minute that you went to any of those links, because they took you directly to the story itself. An idiot could find and read about Fast and Furious at all of those links.
You say that you’ve “not read the text of these sites becasue I haven’t had the time.”
I suggest that you are so clouded by prejudice that you aren’t interested in truth. You accuse others of bias, but you are a perfect example of it yourself.
We have ample and legitimate gripes about the news media. In this case, they’re covering the story, and we need give encouragement when it’s due.
That’s the fair, honest, and conservative approach.
Grassley is better than you think. He knows how the game is played. He will be an important piece of the puzzle but the real authority to investigate is Issa. Grassley has his faults, but I would take him over 95 other sitting senators.
We should remember that Fast and Furious may be only one part of "Gunwalker". Fast and Furious involved the ATF in Phoenix.
We know that at least one gun store in Texas was directed to sell guns to straw buyers that they believed were "walking" guns to Mexico.
We may be seeing just the tip of the iceberg.
Afghanistan...dead flowers?
They are two separate programs.
Wrong, they are the same program, Fast and Furious was the Official name, Gun Walker was coined later by investigators.
Hey MEXICO...Y'all suck!
Signed,
Los Gringos Americanos bastardos
IIRC, the terms are NOT interchangeable. Project Gunwalker preceded Fast and Furious and was started by the Bush administration. Under Gunwalker, the straw buyers were followed and the weapons then seized when they were resold.
Under F&F there was no attempt to seize the weapons, the straw buyers were simply tracked, then the weapons allowed to continue on their way. Someone please correct me if this is not accurate.
Considering this has been going on since March, that’s not much coverage.
Interesting.......ATF director voluntarily offered questioning with his personal attorney present,not the departments attorney. Telling.
WHY would the DOJ delay indictments of the straw purchasers who supplied the weapons that killed Agent Terry???????? This is frightening stuff.
>We should remember that Fast and Furious may be only one part of “Gunwalker”. Fast and Furious involved the ATF in Phoenix.
We know that at least one gun store in Texas was directed to sell guns to straw buyers that they believed were “walking” guns to Mexico.
We may be seeing just the tip of the iceberg.<
No, I think this was one operation that was being handled by the one District Court. It all would have gone back to the same office.
The tip of the iceberg is that the FBI was fully involved and it was their informant that was used improperly. In essence they conspired in a criminal act with the Justice department. Who ever controlled that informant .. who ever gave the orders for that informant to be used in the way that he was broke every rule in the book and quite a few federal laws. Since there were more than a few players ,, there is a conspiracy charge there somewhere.
This could get ugly. But I am pretty confident that only one US attorneys office was involved. They would not have wanted such an operation in too many places knowing how bad it could get if it got out .. which it did.
Each operation would have been given it’s own unique name.
What do you expect from Fed Bureaucrats.
Obviously, “Melson was stupid and did not smart enough to run an intelligent program” is not going to work for the DOJ.
Somebody higher up (and there are only 3 people above Melson, including Holder and Obama) manipulated this situation.
The leftstream media isn't going to ask that question.
I guess it's time for Sarah Palin to post another tweet. She's the only one who can get everyone looking in the right direction.
Oh, say it ain't so.
Remember, it wasn't too many weeks before the media frenzy of "Gun crisis, 90% of those evil assault rifles come from the U.S" mantra....
That both Hillary and Rahm, smugly and arrogantly, let fly with their "Never let a crisis go to waste" statements.
Well, what do we have here with this little manufactured crisis?
It certainly can't be let go to waste, can it?
BFLR
A Congressional report released June 9 by Democratic Senators Dianne Feinstein, Charles Schumer, and Sheldon Whitehouse concluded that American weapons are fueling drug violence in Mexico, and that U.S. policymakers have not responded adequately. While there are legitimate questions about what percentage of drug cartels' guns came from American federal firearms licensees, over 20,000 firearms found at Mexican crime scenes in 2009 and 2010 were proven to have come from the U.S." Interesting that the Dems have been coordinating to make this an issue, and one has to wonder how much has been inflated by INTENTIONAL SMUGGLING of weapons through F&F....does this not seem, uh, orchestrated?
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