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BREAKING: F&F firestorm: Mexican officials want to prosecute U.S. officials
Seattle Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 5 July, 2011 | Dave Workman

Posted on 07/06/2011 4:50:13 AM PDT by marktwain

Fox News is reporting today that some officials in Mexico would like to extradite and prosecute U.S. officials responsible for Operation Fast and Furious because it flooded their country with guns illegally, resulting in the deaths of possibly hundreds of Mexican citizens.

Not like anything of the sort will happen, but it underscores the serious nature of anger south of the border, where those government officials feel betrayed by the United States. There is no small irony today in the fact that President Obama is trying to intercede in Thursday's scheduled execution of a Mexican citizen who was convicted of the 1994 rape and murder of a 16-year-old San Antonio girl. My colleague, David Codrea, writes about it here.

President Barack Obama is attempting to block the execution in Texas on Thursday of a Mexican man because it would breach an international convention and do "irreparable harm" to US interests.—The Guardian

And now that the Casey Anthony case has been decided, perhaps more attention will be paid to the gunrunning controversy.

Incredibly, according to The Hill newspaper, the family of slain Border Patrol agent Brian Terry does not want officials here prosecuted, only the straw buyers and gunrunners who may have been involved in moving the murder weapon from a gun shop in this country into the hands of the criminal who killed him.

Yet, as this column reported yesterday, there is ample evidence that quite a few U.S. officials knew about the controversial gunrunning sting operation . It may be some of those officials Mexican authorities want to get their hands on for legal action.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dncabovethelaw; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holde; holder; holderspeople; melson
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To: LottieDah; All

” The Mexicans can have Obama, Biden, Pelosi, and the rest of the Democrats in the House and Senate too. “

Man! Those are some “shovel ready” people!


21 posted on 07/06/2011 5:47:44 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: marktwain

For the 1,000 we’d like to have extradited here, I’d like to offer up the entire 0bama regime and all its “czars,” along with 53 democrats in the Senate, 193 in the House, 50 million other liberals, the entire U.S. muslim population and 20+ million illegals.


22 posted on 07/06/2011 5:52:39 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

The MSM is deliberately using language like “the ATF failed to track the weapons”

In spite of the proponents of this operations statements that that was the plan, it absolutely never was.

Radio hosts speak about their incompetence and incompetence had nothing to do with it. It is a conspiracy, period.


23 posted on 07/06/2011 6:04:49 AM PDT by HonestConservative (http://www.freedomradiorocks.com)
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To: jakerobins

After we are done with her. They can have what’s left over.


24 posted on 07/06/2011 6:05:12 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: HonestConservative
It is a conspiracy, period.

Yep. Nothing else makes sense.

Obama's "working on gun control under the radar" remarks, coupled with no reasonable expectation by experienced LEOs of ever tracking those firearms unless they were recovered from crime scenes, here or in Mexico, belies the lie.

25 posted on 07/06/2011 6:18:20 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: marktwain

I’d think a few Hispanics north of the border would be upset by operation gunwalker as well.


26 posted on 07/06/2011 6:25:03 AM PDT by MulberryDraw ( Where's the democrat budget? What's the plan?)
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To: cripplecreek

Then you missed “Special Report,” where they spent about three minutes on it.


27 posted on 07/06/2011 6:55:50 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Smokin' Joe

One of the problems I have with the gun control theory as a stand alone is they would have to expose themselves and what they have done in order to use it for gun control. We saw this in Houston with Carter’s Country. Idiots went after Carter’s Country and exposed themselves and what they were doing.

For it to be used for gun control, there had to be a plan for the weapons to be used in this country, then during the chaos go for gun control. This way they would then have the support of the majority of the people that something has to be done to stop the violence.


28 posted on 07/06/2011 6:58:31 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: marktwain

It’s theater; the Mexican govt was complicit (I’ll bet).


29 posted on 07/06/2011 7:03:56 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Howie66

Will Obama sacrifice anyone except a white appointee to Mexican mobs?


30 posted on 07/06/2011 7:28:16 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: IMR 4350
If you will recall, no push for gun control measures is unaccompanied by a runup in stories in the media.

The meme of American bought guns going south to arm the cartels and being responsible for violence on both sides of the border was becoming a regular mantra in the media.

That the ATF had already tried to pump up the data (in appearance) by presenting the few traced weapons as if they were the whole sample, rather than a fraction of the recovered arms in Mexico and in the US, had been exposed.

It would not be the first time evidence had been doctored, and by having dealers sell firearms to obvious and known straw buyers, and then be sold from there, it appears that the desire was for those arms to go across the border so they could be recovered from crime scenes later.

These were fully functional firearms, not ones which had been tampered with to make them unreliable.

Had this been a 'sting', the traffic would have been interdicted, the arms confiscated, and the traffickers arrested, or the Mexican authorities notified so they could interdict the movement of the arms.

I seriously think this was an effort to increase the numbers of weapons recovered from crime scenes in Mexico and along the US border, which had been 'legally' purchased in the US, even though the purchases probably would not have passed muster otherwise (without BATFE interventionon behalf of the purchasers).

Recall, also, that Obama attempted to placate the Brady Bunch with the statement that he was 'working on gun control under the radar', and that that statement coincides with the timing of the Fast and Furious operation.

Sorry, that is just too pat to not be heavily investigated.

Do so, and then, let the chips fall where they may.

31 posted on 07/06/2011 7:33:11 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: marktwain
If Mexico would begin their case for extradition of Kenneth Melson (ATF chief), Fast & Furious would be in the MSM news every day.

I have been advocating the use of the Extradition Treaty with Mexico as a tool to get the ATF to testify, since June 4.

Kenneth Melson will not be able to use the Nuremberg Defense (*just following orders) for what he should have known were illegal orders. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

32 posted on 07/06/2011 7:54:44 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: marktwain

There is no doubt in my mind that Mexican officials participated in the running of illegal guns into Mexico. That said, Mexico has every right to prosecute our politicians and officials for their participation.


33 posted on 07/06/2011 9:16:49 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Man! Those are some “shovel ready” people!

And I know exactly what I'd like to see them shoveling...

34 posted on 07/06/2011 10:50:14 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: HonestConservative

I watched Fox’s Special Report with Brett Bair last evening. This was the 2nd panel topic. They repeatedly brought up the fact that the ATF never tracked the weapons. Not once did they ask the obvious question to that: “WHY?” I don’t know if this panel was that incompetent (well...Juan was one), or if they really don’t want to know the answer.


35 posted on 07/06/2011 10:53:30 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: samtheman

How many people -let alone Americans- were killed by weapons transfered via Iran/Contra?


36 posted on 07/06/2011 10:59:04 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: bcsco

The fact that no system was ever created to track the weapons tell us what we need to know. In fact any attempt at tracking the weapons by the desperate and exasperated experienced agents was immediately squashed by the higher ups.

The plan was to flood Mexico with weapons, that much is clear.

What is yet to be proven is motivation. We all know what it is, but as I said, it is yet to be proven.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=44671


37 posted on 07/06/2011 1:49:02 PM PDT by HonestConservative (http://www.freedomradiorocks.com)
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To: HonestConservative
The fact that no system was ever created to track the weapons tell us what we need to know. In fact any attempt at tracking the weapons by the desperate and exasperated experienced agents was immediately squashed by the higher ups.

I agree. I was shouting that at the TV last night during Special Report. The simple fact no controls were in place to track the weapons gives the lie to the explanation. What is yet to be proven is motivation. We all know what it is, but as I said, it is yet to be proven.

But so far no one is approaching this. No one is looking beyond what they're being told. No one is thinking in the box let alone outside the box. How hard is it to ask the questions "Why was not effort made to track the weapons?" "Why did no one in authority at ATF of DOJ insist on tracking?" Apparently we have to do the work for the journalists. They're too incompetent, or too in the tank to bother.

38 posted on 07/06/2011 2:21:42 PM PDT by bcsco
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39 posted on 07/06/2011 3:39:49 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: tbw2

Doubtful.

He’ll let the Honkeys take the heat.


40 posted on 07/06/2011 7:33:23 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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