3 can play that game! And do you have proof that Perry "paid off" ACORN? (That is a pretty serious accusation.)
Posted on 07/05/2011 9:15:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
AUSTIN, Tex. — Gov. Rick Perry, a Republican contemplating a presidential run, shares many attributes with the last man who ran for president from here, his predecessor and onetime patron, George W. Bush. He has the same straight-legged Texas swagger; the down-home, clipped speaking style; the desert-baked conservatism.
But in recent years, Mr. Perry has broken politically with Mr. Bush, questioning his credentials as a fiscal conservative, accusing him of going on “a big government binge” and playing down some of Mr. Bush’s accomplishments in Texas in light of his own.
Mr. Perry’s public statements exposed a long-simmering rivalry that had been little known outside of the political fraternity here but underscores the rightward drift of the Republican Party since Mr. Bush was president. More acutely, Mr. Perry’s criticism holds potential peril and benefit for him should he decide to mount a presidential campaign, allowing him to establish an identity distinct from Mr. Bush but risking a guerrilla campaign against him by the former president’s inner circle.
Mr. Perry, whose aides say will make a decision within weeks, has been meeting around the country with potential fund-raisers, and last week went to Colorado for a gathering of prominent conservative rainmakers held by members of the Koch family, which helped finance the Tea Party movement.....
On government spending, immigration and education, Mr. Perry’s criticisms of Mr. Bush have given him cachet with conservatives, especially with Tea Party voters who blame the former president for allowing spending and the reach of government to grow rapidly.
Those criticisms have burnished the Perry image as less prone to ideological compromise or a fuzzy “compassionate” brand of conservatism, an appealing trait to those Republican primary voters seeking purity in their nominee....
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Between that and his energy mandates (a la Arnold), he's got a few big black marks by his name. I think this election, as usual, is going to be a choice as to who is the "least worst." If I made a list, I think all of the candidates would have at least one mark by their name (so far). I'm anxious to start hearing more from each one instead of the endless popularity polls.
3 can play that game! And do you have proof that Perry "paid off" ACORN? (That is a pretty serious accusation.)
I suppose you were “done” with Reagan too, since he initiated Amnesty during his Presidency.
See that you are still pushing the RINO Perry.
Good luck.
Has he apologized for the Gardasil matter?
Has he taken accountability for the Gardasil matter?
See that you are still pushing the RINO Perry.
Good luck.
Has he apologized for the Gardasil matter?
Has he taken accountability for the Gardasil matter?
Ping me when Perry speaks out against his billionaire donors who helped torpedo the sanctuary cities bill a few weeks ago. That’ll be a ping that never happens.
2005 Houston Chronicle article: Gov Perry---advocate for affordable housing---- earns kudos in "lending law reform."
I think you drove your point home.
Now, let the “Perryites” sweep up the ashes ;-)
Thanks very much for the info.
See post 167
I’m looking for Perry hate.
I clicked on Google News, typed in Rick Perry, and here is what I got, using MSM not blogs or one offs.
1st Article - LA Times
Rick Perry has a history of acrimony with George W. Bush
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/30/nation/la-na-0630-perry-bush-20110630
Excerpt from article:
“Perry’s story is the kind of up-by-his-bootstraps saga that Bush might have scripted for himself, had he been able.
“He grew up in West Texas, in a farm town so small it literally was not on the state map until Perry, as governor, put it there. Life was austere; Perry was 6 before the family had indoor plumbing. His mother sewed his clothes, including the underwear Perry wore to college.
“He graduated from Texas A&M with a degree in animal science, joined the Air Force, then returned to farming. On a whim he ran for state Legislature in 1984, as a Democrat, and won.”
My analysis:
I can’t find any hate for Perry in this LA Times article. I can’t figure out what the agenda is with this article. The tone certainly is nothing of the sort of a “hate Perry” tone. I don’t know what to make of this article. They seem to treat him very fairly.
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2nd Article - Washington Post
Nevada Presidential Debate Postponed In Hopes of perry candidacy
Excerpt:
“Perry was among the stars of last weekend’s Republican Leadership Conference, generating buzz with a rousing speech that made him sound very much like a potential candidate. He sharply criticized the Obama Adminstration policies and touted his own record in Texas as an example the nation should follow.
“A Perry campaign could generate excitement that some Republicans believe is missing from the current field. With a strong record of job creation and a long history of touting Conservative principles, Perry is widely viewed as someone with the potential to bridge the divide between the establishment Republicans and tea party conservatives.”
My analysis:
The article seems incredibly straight, fair and evenhanded toward Perry with no tone of hate and no slander or attacks. The excerpt I postes has a tone of praise for Perry’s accomplishments and conciliatory nature. I see no hate or attack of him whatsoever in this MSM article. None.
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3rd Article - Reuters
Protesters, muted reaction greet Perry at Hispanic event
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/23/us-campaign-perry-hispanics-idUSTRE75M7JG20110623
My analysis:
This article describes Perry being not accepted by a Hispanic audience. I don’t know the agenda of this article. It could be an anti-Perry article reminding Hispanics not to support him, but I certainly can’t find any hate in this piece. I didn’t find any gotcha quotes or slur or slander or criticism of him. It was all written matter of fact. They described Hispanics not applauding for him, but I didn’t find any anti-Perry lines in the article. Maybe I just missed them.
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4th Article - Wall Street Journal
Texan Perry Sizes Up Roadblocks to GOP Bid
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303936704576396002471789980.html
Excerpt:
Mr. Perry, 61, would bring to the race an unusual blend of populism and establishment conservatism, marked by a combative stance against a range of Obama administration policies.
The three-term governor drew an enthusiastic response during a speech Saturday to the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans when he challenged GOP candidates not to shrink from social issues, such as opposition to abortion. He also touted the passage of legislation that requires voters to have valid identification.
My analysis:
That excert sounds vaguely like praise to me except for his “combative stance” against Obama. Is that phrase a “hate Perry” phrase. Maybe, but I don’t see it. The GOP are always combative to the Dems. This sounds par for the course and I don’t read this as Perry hate. Touching on his enthusiastic response from the crowd, is that hate? Not seeing it. This reads like a matter of fact article to me. Pretty balanced the way Fox News would do it.
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5th Article - San Francisco Chronicle
Texas Gov. Rick Perry slammed for prayer service
My analysis:
OK, I’ll put this one down as a hate Perry article from San Francisco’s atheists. They don’t really come out and attack Perry but they keep harping on others scorn for him. I’ll give you this one.
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6th Article - Sacramento Bee
What the GOP Field Should Know About Rick Perry
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/06/29/3735500/what-the-gop-field-should-know.html
My analysis:
About 3/4 of the article praises Perry for being a winner and concludes he would be a top campaigner and implies a likely GOP winner. The last 1/4 just starts to criticize him and then abruptly ends. 3:1 love vs. hate does not a hate article make. No hate here.
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7th Article - CBS News
Rick Perry: Republicans should “Stop Apologizing”
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20072298-503544.html
I guess if you are a rabid left wing socialist, then describing what Perry said to a crowd of GOP admirers and describing the enthusiastic support he got and how people admitting to being “fired up” by Perry, could be defined as hate. Sorry, this sounds like a pretty straight article once again.
I don’t know. Maybe I am so far to the right, I just can’t see the hate you say Perry is getting from the MSM. I just can’t see it. If you’ve got some articles from the MSM cutting him down, denigrating him, labeling him, trashing him, criticizing him, please post them up so I can learn from them.
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Here, try this by contrast...
Palin Brand Wanes in Alaska
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/06/29/palin-brand-wanes-in-alaska/
Exerpt:
While Sarah Palin continues to play cat and mouse on her presidential ambitions, some voters in her home state of Alaska already know enough: In a hypothetical match-up with President Barack Obama, they would re-elect the Democratic incumbent by a wide margin over their celebrity former governor.
My analysis:
Do you see how Palin not declaring is called “play cat and mouse”. But you don’t see Perry’s failure to declare called that. Oh no, he is giving it serious deliberation.
The article says Palin is losing support at home. But you don’t read anything about Perry’s support. Look at all of the articles I posted about Perry above. He is called a winner. He is called a bridge builder between the tea party and establishment. He is shown getting an enthusiastic response from people he fires up.
The MSM makes up stories from whole cloth. They spin the story they want and find the quotes and polls to support the pre-conceived story. I am not finding any anti-Perry stories from the MSM. If anything, all of the stories play up his “conservative credentials” to the hilt.
It is as if they are trying to sell him to conservatives and to the tea party. You call that hate? I think that is exactly what they are trying to do. The MSM keep selling Perry and Romney as die-hard conservatives, just exactly as they did with McLame in 2008.
I’m not seeing the so-called Perry hate. Maybe you can show it to me.
Paultards think they're so clever slipping their lefty-wacko cult leader's name into these conversations as if he's a viable candidate. LOL
” I suppose you were “done” with Reagan too, since he initiated Amnesty during his Presidency.”
Go back and read the bill Reagan signed. It was never enforced......not a friggin inch of it.
Karl Rove claims Rick Perry as his candidate in Perry's FIRST campaign for the Texas Agriculture Commission. [From what I’ve found this was their only collaboration]
Perry was a Texas Democrat (not a liberal Democrat). He switched to the Republican Party in 1989. In 1990 Perry won the election (against Jim Hightower) to head the Agricultural Committee (a post Perry was well suited for as having come from a cotton farming family -- raised and worked the land -- and had a degree in Animal Science from Texas A&M). He was reelected in 1994 to that office in a landslide (62%). He did not seek reelection for a 3rd term and ran for Lt. Gov of Texas (1998), winning in a 3 way race, in a hard fought campaign against John Sharp (D).
["Perry thus became the state's first Republican lieutenant governor since Reconstruction, taking office on January 19, 1999 until his ascension to the governorship on December 21, 2000 upon the resignation of then-Governor George W. Bush."] Source
In that 1998 campaign year, the G.W. Bush camp (which included Karl Rove) was campaigning for W's reelection for Texas Gov (1st elected in 1994) and was at odds with Rick Perry's hard nosed campaign against John Sharp for Lt. Gov. Karl Rove told Perry to soft peddle to lift Bush's numbers in minority groups, Perry refused. Bush won reelection as Texas Governor. Perry won office as Lt. Gov. (arguably a stronger office than TX governor).
["Bush won by 1.4 million votes, Perry by fewer than 70,000. There were harsh words afterward; Rove and Dave Carney, a top Perry strategist, now are bitter foes."] Source
Then there was this in the TX Monthly about the 2010 governor's race:
October 2009: “....It would not be surprising to find that Karl Rove had a hand in this somewhere. The Bushies are definitely in the Hutchison camp, and there is no love lost between them and the Perry camp. The tension (according to Perry team members whom I interviewed on this subject last year) dates all the way back to Perry’s race for lieutenant governor in 1998, when Rove insisted that Perry stick with a positive message even while he was being pounded by John Sharp. Meanwhile, in the view of the Perry camp, Rove was trying to turn out Hispanic Democrats who would vote for Bush, even though that meant they were likely to switch back to the D column to vote for Sharp. The Perry team decided that they had to fight back, Rove or no Rove, and they went rogue, going after Sharp hard. It worked.
...If that animosity weren’t enough, after Bush was named the winner in December 2000, Perry was insistent that the president-elect vacate the governor’s mansion so that Perry could move in, notwithstanding that Bush wanted to stay a day or two longer before leaving for Washington. I heard that firsthand from the Bushies at the time....” -- Texas Monthly
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Basically, in the 2010 GOP primary in TX for the governor's office, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutichison was hoping to come home to Texas as Governor. Her election was being backed by the Bush family and all their power players were lined up against Gov. Rick Perry, with Karl Rove serving as Sen Hutchison's adviser against Perry. Source
Rick Perry won a 3rd term as Governor of Texas in 2010.
To Reagan’s credit, even though he intended to grant amnesty to about one million illegal immigrants that had accumulated in the U. S. over more than twenty years, he still saw illegal immigration as a big problem.
He signed a bill that was intended to tighten border enforcement as well as make it impossible for illegal aliens to be employed here. Stiff penalties were instituted to discourage businesses from hiring illegals.
In Reagan’s day as Governor of California, illegal immigrants were being rounded up each and every day, and deported by the busload back to Mexico. This he intended to have continue at an accelerated rate after his bill was signed.
As StephenJohnBanker stated though, these new laws were never enforced. Globalist presidents from the elder George Bush on down, did not enforce our borders. The problems caused by Reagan’s betrayal on this issue, are none the less blamed on him by people who haven’t followed the issue for the last close to thirty years, like SJB and I have.
Reagan would have brought out our armed forces to enforce our border in the early 1990s, as soon as he saw what was taking place. Businesses would have been fined and shuttered. The nonsense we see taking place today, our nation being occupied by the citizens of another nation, would have seriously pissed him off.
Reagan loved our nation. There is no way in hell he would have allowed what is taking place today, to even get started.
Well, just knowing that Karl Rove wouldn’t be affiliated with his presidency, would be a step in the right direction.
It had been my impression that Perry was weak on border enforcement and the issue of illegal immigration.
I’m not quite as sure of that today. I looked around a bit, and didn’t find as much proof of that as I had expected to.
Texans need to fill us in on what Perry is all about. Of course a lot of Texans assured us George Bush was the second coming too. Unfortunately, they were right. It’s just that he was the wrong second coming...
The TX Legislature meets for 140 days every 2 years. Perry called them back into a special session to address "Sanctuary Cities. The Senate did a "take it or leave it bill" and left it on the House's desk and adjourned. The House leadership was pissed at the Senate's posture and they laughed at the representative pushing it in the House and adjourned too. There was much jockeying going on (political musical chair considerations) for the next elections, going on in the TX legislature.
However!
July 4, 2011 [Texas] Rule requiring drivers to prove citizenship now law As the House early last month debated a must-pass finance bill, one member slipped in language that puts into law a controversial Texas Department of Public Safety policy requiring driver's license applicants to show they're in the country legally.
The amendment, added by Rep. Jim Pitts, R-Waxahachie, to the education funding bill legislators needed to balance the state budget had originally been included in Senate Bill 9, the so-called "sanctuary cities" bill that failed in the special session. It also had appeared in an omnibus homeland security bill by Sen. Tommy Williams, R-The Woodlands, that died in the regular session.
The new law approved last Tuesday makes some tweaks to a 2008 DPS policy that prevents illegal immigrants from getting a driver's license and created a special license for temporary visitors. The rules require Texans applying for or renewing their license to show they are citizens or are in the country legally.
By putting it into law the state potentially undermines an ongoing lawsuit that argues DPS doesn't have authority to check legal status."....
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Rick Perry Says Texas Can Learn From Israeli -- August 2009 — “Gov. Rick Perry compared Mexico to the Gaza strip, saying Texas can learn from Israeli security efforts after touring a town that has been hit by Palestinian rockets.
Perry, who has demanded a heightened U.S. troop presence along the Rio Grande, went to Israel’s border with Gaza earlier with week and was briefed by Israeli Army officials.
...While in Israel, Perry also has met with President Shimon Peres and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and, according to his office, visited “sacred and historical sites,” including Jerusalem’s Old City, according to the Post.”
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Perry voices concern to feds about anti-Israel flotillas -- June 29, 2011 ....Perry wrote in a letter dated Wednesday, “According to numerous recent media reports, American citizens and organizations, together with a coalition of violent anti-Israeli organizations from other countries, have organized efforts to breach Israel’s Maritime blockade of the Gaza Strip as early as this week.”
He continued, “The act of funding, supporting, organizing and engaging in these efforts appears to constitute participation in a naval expedition against a people with whom the United States is at peace,” as well as material support or resources to a foreign terrorist organization and other violations.
Perry said at least two of the ships are registered in Delaware, including one named “The Audacity of Hope,” which was the title of President Barack Obama’s second book.
The letter concludes, “I respectfully request that the U.S. Department of Justice take immediate steps to investigate, enjoin and bring to justice all parties found to be in violation of U.S. law by their participation in these efforts.”
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2007; [excerpt] "Perry, in Mexico with a Texan trade mission seeking opportunities in areas like renewable energy, said the federal government’s plan to build a wall along much of the border to keep out illegal immigrants was “idiocy.”
“We need those individuals to continue to grow our economy,” Perry told a briefing with reporters.
“If you show up illegally, without your card or you’re here as a criminal element, I’m for throwing the book at those folks, but the issue of people who want to legally, thoughtfully and appropriately come to America to work and help us build our economy — we should quickly come up with a program and an identification card to do that.” [end excerpt] Source
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"......When Obama continued to refuse even five minutes for the Governor, Perry took matters into this own hands and was standing on the tarmac at Austin’s airport when President Obama stepped off of Air Force One. Obama looked confused, Perry looked determined. Obama still ignored the pleas for help.
Perry again took matters into his own hands, and established an elite unit of Texas Rangers to bolster border security..." Source
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"Other states leaving Secure Communities (TX expands ICE program]--- "As Texas moves toward expanding Secure Communities, several northern states are dropping out of the program that matches the fingerprints of those arrested against a U.S. [ICE] database.
Last week, before Gov. Rick Perry's announcement that the expansion of Secure Communities would be on the agenda for the Legislature's special session, Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick announced his state will not take part in the program...." Source [legislature adjourned the special session w/o giving Perry a bill to sign -- see 2 stories at top of this post.]
Of this 2000 mile long fence so many want built along our southern border, 1254 miles of it is lies in Texas.
Illegals will dig and tunnel, climb, swim, drive and fly to get to the out of control social services that Perry and other conservatives want to roll back.
Perry has asked for 3000 troops on the border, drones for intelligence and more.
June 29, 2011: Roger Hedgecock interview with Rick Perry (starts 1/2 way into audio file) Not a long interview but they talk about TTC and border security.
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Gov. Perry and The Texas Dream Act
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It’s important to point out that there is a huge difference in the Texas Dream Act and the The Dream Act that was pushed in Congress and failed. The Dream Act in Congress was full of all kinds of goodies other than allowing children of illegals to receive in state tuition. The Texas Dream Act was focused only on that. I happen to agree with The Texas Dream Act, and so did everyone in the Senate in Texas. It passed with ZERO “no” votes. Add to that, it has been proven to be successful.
These are a few things you need to know about the [2001] Texas Dream Act. The child has to have lived in Texas the three years leading up to high school graduation. These students are given no special treatment in getting into Texas colleges and universities. They must get in on their own merit. They are paying the tuition (with or without financial aid). It’s estimated that these students make up about 1% of those entering college.
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Most of us agree that border control MUST be dealt with first. The problem with all other efforts on this issue in the past is that the borders were not sealed. If there is anyone who we can trust to do that it is Gov. Perry (if he decides to run for President). He knows what goes on down at the border. He has gone there many times. He knows what needs to be done. There is no doubt in my mind that if he were President, he would seal our borders. But Perry also understands Hispanic outreach.
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Rick Perry: Al Gore's gone to Hell
Perry does not believe there is valid scientific proof of anthropogenic global warming. He has said several times that there is no scientific consensus on the issue.
On September 7, 2007 Perry gave a speech to California Republicans. He said, "Virtually every day another scientist leaves the global warming bandwagon. ... But you won't read about that in the press because they have already invested in one side of the story."
Perfect explanation, D1
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