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Sun Yat-sen's U.S. birth certificate to be displayed
China News Agency ^ | July 01, 2011 | Nancy Liu

Posted on 07/02/2011 10:49:58 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Taipei, July 2 (CNA) A birth certificate showing that the Republic of China's (ROC) founding father was born in the United States will be put on display July 4 in Taipei, said the America Institute in Taiwan (AIT) on Saturday.

The historical document, issued on March 14, 1904, indicated that Sun Yat-sen was born on Oahu Island, Hawaii, on Nov. 24, 1870.

It enabled him to travel from Hawaii on April 7, 1904, to San Francisco as a U.S. citizen while the Qing Dynasty issued a warrant for his arrest for attempting to overthrow the government.

The birth certificate, obtained from the U.S. Immigration Office, will be a copy of the original file, said Sheila Paskman, spokesperson for AIT, which represents U.S. interests in Taiwan in the absence of formal diplomatic ties.

Asked whether this is the first time the document was revealed, Paskman said no and that "it has been around for a while."

(Excerpt) Read more at focustaiwan.tw ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; naturalborncitizen; usurper
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To: UCANSEE2

n other words, SUN got his U.S. BC through the same ‘scam’ in Hawaii that Obama did. And probably about the same time.


The time frames are off a bit.
Sun Yat Sen died in 1925. Hawaii became a state of the Union in 1959. Obama was born in 1961.


21 posted on 07/04/2011 11:22:26 AM PDT by jh4freedom (Mr. "O" has got to go.)
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To: WKUHilltopper
I guess we’ll eventually discover that Bethlehem was in Hawaii too.

Its in Pennsylvania.

22 posted on 07/04/2011 12:50:28 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SvenMagnussen

On July 1, 2011 Rhode Island became the newest state (joining other states including Oregon, New Hampshire, Tennessee, etc.) to reverse the discrimination against US-born adopted citizens and allow the release of original birth certificates to adult adoptees. Right on! Kansas and Alaska never closed access of original birth certificates to adoptees.

Before 1935, all US adoptees had access to their original birth certificates. Around 1940, US adoptees’ birth certificates began to be sealed in some states to protect the adoptee and the adoptive family from intrusion by birth parents. In Tennessee, for example, records were closed to cover up illegal adoptions and the fear that the illegally adopted children might be returned to birthparents upon evidence of improprieties. In other cases, records were closed to protect the identity of birth parents to whom publicity might tarnish their public persona - typically a birth father of public stature or wealth. Still other relinquishments were done as intimidation of birth mothers as a judgement of their church or culture that they were too poor or too young, or were unmarried and therefore unfit to parent a child. Shaming birthmothers was common in relinquishments and secrecy was used to hide the shame. However, children who were relinquished but NOT ADOPTED still RETAINED their original birth certificate.

To join adoption reform and restore original birth certificates to adoptees in ALL US STATES, see the American Adoption Congress. Find out what your state is doing to grant adoptees full rights of citizenship on this Independence Day.


23 posted on 07/04/2011 3:33:52 PM PDT by BorninUSAadoptee (Happy Independence Day!)
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To: BorninUSAadoptee

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/07/congress-knew-obama-was-ineligiblesix.html

six yrs they have been trying to change Elegibility. They knew- they know.


24 posted on 07/04/2011 7:31:19 PM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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25 posted on 07/04/2011 7:32:12 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Netizen; SatinDoll

The Original Long Form BC in an adoption is sealed and archived by court order because it is legally voided. It can never be used for any legal or administrative matter, again.

Post-adoption, the adoptee is issued a valid COLB with a
“date filed” backdated to the date of the “date accepted” indicated on the Original Long Form BC. The only vital record as it pertains to the adoptee that is valid for use in a legal or administrative matter is the post-adoption “date filed” COLB.

In Obama’s case, the post-adoption COLB was sealed and archived by Court Order when BHO Sr. returned to Hawaii to complain he was not properly notified and did not consent to the Soetoro adoption. Consequently, the Soetoro COLB was sealed and archived by Court Order and a post-annulment COLB was issued to BHO II. The post-annulment COLB is the only vital record concerning Obama’s birth that is legally valid.


26 posted on 07/05/2011 5:10:34 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (BHO II naturalized as U.S. Citizen after becoming an Indonesian National)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-20 (Adoption)
(e) The sealed documents may be opened by the department only by an order of a court of record or when requested in accordance with section 578-14.5 or 578-15. Upon receipt of a certified copy of a court order setting aside a decree of adoption, the department shall restore the original certificate to its original place in the files.


27 posted on 07/05/2011 10:55:40 AM PDT by jh4freedom (Mr. "O" has got to go.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Sven, forgive me, I am lost. Are you saying the post annulment colb is the one he presented in April?


28 posted on 07/05/2011 12:54:05 PM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: jh4freedom; SatinDoll

§338-17.7 Establishment of new certificates of birth, when. (a) The department of health shall establish, in the following circumstances, a new certificate of birth for a person born in this State who already has a birth certificate filed with the department and who is referred to below as the “birth registrant”:

(1) Upon receipt of an affidavit of paternity, a court order establishing paternity, or a certificate of marriage establishing the marriage of the natural parents to each other, together with a request from the birth registrant, or the birth registrant’s parent or other person having legal custody of the birth registrant, that a new birth certificate be prepared because previously recorded information has been altered pursuant to law;

(2) Upon receipt of a certified copy of a final order, judgment, or decree of a court of competent jurisdiction that determined the nonexistence of a parent and child relationship between a person identified as a parent on the birth certificate on file and the birth registrant;

___________________________________________________________

A new certificate (BHO II COLB with “date filed” backdated to Aug. 8, 1961) was created post-annulment because of either a request by SAD Soetoro or BHO Sr. or the Court ruled the parent-child relationship was nonexistent between BHO II and one of his parents.

And you demand I state for the record which incidence it was, I’ll say I don’t know.


29 posted on 07/06/2011 6:39:15 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (BHO II naturalized as U.S. Citizen after becoming an Indonesian National)
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