Posted on 07/02/2011 6:47:55 PM PDT by CharlyFord
RIVERSIDE (CBS) — Is the state of California about to go “South”?
Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone apparently thinks so, after proposing that the county lead a campaign for as many as 13 Southern California counties to secede from the state.
Stone said in a statement late Thursday that Riverside, Imperial, San Diego, Orange, San Bernardino, Kings, Kern, Fresno, Tulare, Inyo, Madera, Mariposa and Mono counties should form the new state of South California.
The creation of the new state would allow officials to focus on securing borders, balancing budgets, improving schools and creating a vibrant economy, he said.
“Our taxes are too high, our schools don’t educate our children well enough, unions and other special interests have more clout in the Legislature than the general public,” Stone said in his statement.
You make a very good point!
One that I selfishly hadn’t even thought of.
Breaking up California will have a major impact on national politics.
The libs will fight this to the death.
I would love to do the same thing here in Illinois - everything south of I-80 could divorce itself from Chicago.
God if only Santa Barbara would join the fight. I love where I live but hey. The whacked out liberals have lost this great state and I have to say the reagan amnesty certainly wasn’t real smart either. Yet the liberals have destroyed this state.
You know, the cities you cite (one of which is my place of birth) were once wonderful places. Rather than all this rhetoric about handing this city or that city over to Mexico, China or North Korea, how about a plan to drive the liberals out?
A few centuries ago, the Europeans got tired of the Muzzies and drove them back to their sand dunes and camels. So too, should we work toward driving the liberals out of the US. Californians had a chance after WWII to keep the trash out, but we were evidently too busy enjoying ourselves while the liberals, working like termites, ate up the state’s foundations.
That is in large part what "reducing the size of the federal government" is all about, and it's why the rats are so adamant against it. The more localized the control of government, the less opportunity the rats have to confiscate from red counties and use the money to buy the votes of their party "base" of bums, deadbeats, and parasites in the blue counties, most of which include the large, concentrated Democrat parasite nests ("cities").
I could like this.
It wouldn’t have to be an actual seccession, anyway.
The state could be divided into two separately governed sections. No different than creating a new county.
I say don’t make a new state. Simply create two separate “state” government sections, each with their own budgets and tax schemes. California could still exist, but its state government organized to govern each half separately.
Everything south of Santa Maria should become the state of South California. We should make the new state capital Ventura, it has a cool city hall building with a sort of dome and pillars—to use as a capital building. It would be out of the urban problems of LA. South Californians are laid back, we talk different, we are a different breed. We tend to be more conservative even if we have pockets of liberalism. Let Jerry Brown have his North California and her failed policies and high taxes. They have been talking about breaking the state in half since the days when Mexico owned it. I say the people of South California should unilaterally declare ourselves the 51st State.
You are so right! In one of the earlier posts a fellow cited Article IV Section 3 Clause 1 that says that new states may be formed but not out of old states without the consent of the state.
We have sort of beat this horse to death. I love your "insane asylum" quote (I'm married to a girl from SC). My point was minor to start such a string of posts:
Counties cannot secede because they are not sovereign states. They can petition the state to let them go, but why would CA do that? In other words the Constitution forbids the Union of the USA from recognizing these counties as a State without the permission of the California Legislature.
If CA agrees it is hardly secession its a split. If the larger part wanted to "eject" the smaller part I suppose they could push through a bill to exclude them from the state and the smaller part could apply for statehood.
Back to your comment, this is what keeps lawyers in business.
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Which is exactly what I said.
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Upon further review the call is overturned. That is EXACTLY what the man said in the first place! I was answering too many posts at one time sir!
“That’s what I was eluding to in my other post, the State legislature would have to agree to split, not the counties splitting without the consent of the State. Counties don’t exist without the action of the state.”
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seems like a certain tyrant had a false justification of this sort back 150 years or so....resulting in mass murder, rape, plunder, arson, etc.
Makes sense. Look at the big political difference between North Carolina and South Carolina.
The liberals gotta go somewhere. I am not saying we should hand them over to Mexico. Let them be city states for a while. After a few years, they will realize that it doesn’t work to have everyone on welfare.
In terms of politics, the states of California and South California would be competitive as between Republicans and Democrats. The states of Los Angeles and San Francisco would be so heavily Democratic that it is possible that the two main parties of these states would be the Democrats and a left-wing party such as the Greens.
I agree with you. The interesting part is that the areas containing farming and forest, there's not enough support for a 'Green' party. But, in the city states LA & San Francisco, concrete jungles, there is enough support to have that 'Green' party. Isn't that typical of libs. The residents of the concrete jungles are actually the least informed on natural environments and have the most extreme views. They are in fact ignorant troublemakers telling more informed people how to run things.
Maybe we should find a simpler solution. Instead of splitting up states to reduce the negative impact of ignorant libs, why don't we just ignore them. Don't let them vote.
He has a volunteer sister? How does that work? Mine’s full time and not an unmixed blessing either.
Personally, I hope the dims don't get smart, and keep running down the road to CW2. Perhaps we can get our country back, and I can hope that the casualty lists aren't too long.
Not sure if a brick wall would be necessary, but there are other urban areas that span state borders.
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