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Final NASA shuttle mission clouded by rancor
WaPo ^ | 07/01/2011 | Joel Achenbach

Posted on 07/02/2011 3:19:42 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

CAPE CANAVERAL — The last shuttle, Atlantis, sits on Pad 39A, ready for its valedictory flight.

It is the nature of a shuttle to look kind of lonely out there on the pad, kept at a safe remove from the control room, the hangars, the observation platforms. The pad is not far from the beach, one of the last stretches of Florida coastline unblemished by hotels and condos. Beach houses were torn down years ago when the federal government showed up with rockets. Old-timers talk of 11 graveyards and an old schoolhouse lurking somewhere out there, the remnants of the era before the coming of the spaceport.

Now the U.S. space program itself is middle-aged, facing a painful transition. Atlantis will blast off, if all goes as planned, at 11:26 a.m. July 8 for a 12-day mission to the international space station. And then . . . what?

Then a lot of uncertainty. The only sure bet is that thousands of people here will be out of a job.

NASA’s critics say the human spaceflight program is in a shambles. They see arm-waving and paperwork rather than a carefully defined mission going forward. NASA has lots of plans, but it has no new rocket ready to launch, no specific destination selected, and no means in the near term to get American astronauts into space other than by buying a seat on one of Russia’s aging Soyuz spacecraft.

The space agency’s leaders say everything’s on track, that the private sector will soon launch astronauts into orbit and let NASA focus on the hard work of deep-space exploration.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nasa; obamunism; spaceshuttle; thedestroyers
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To: Kirkwood
Some drawings are available, most are not. NASA is doing a reverse engineering task now to disassemble and figure out parts of the Saturn V. Techs complain about wild-life nests in some of the equipment.

/johnny

21 posted on 07/02/2011 4:13:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BfloGuy
Time to leave it to the private sector.

Not sure what you mean by this. NASA oversees contracts with the private sector already; the private sector builds, launches, and operates satellites with government oversight, supervision and facilities.

Just handing it over to the "private sector" will produce nothing unless they are funded. Much of what NASA does benefits mankind; who in the private sector has the resources for space research?

We are all witnesses to the end of space exploration. The government has too many obligations for interest payments on borrowed money, entitlement programs, supporting the UN, and irresponsible wars. Countries that we want to emulate like Cuba and Kenya have no space programs.

22 posted on 07/02/2011 4:23:23 PM PDT by olezip
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To: kabar

23 posted on 07/02/2011 4:31:50 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Rush Limbaugh, "Once upon an America")
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To: Bryan24
I thought I was sure Teflon was a NASA developement, but I couldn't find ... I DID find this, though
24 posted on 07/02/2011 4:46:11 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

The rockets face east and NASA promotes Islam so all is well.


25 posted on 07/02/2011 4:53:05 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: JRandomFreeper
excerpt: "The only sure bet is that thousands of people here will be out of a job. "

Where's this writer been? There have been 6 - SIX - layoffs since October. There is only a skeleton crew left.

NASA needs to get back to basic research. Free enterprise can do the rest.

With what funds?

Have you forgotten, or been outta country for a couple years? The Messiah ordered NASA to reroute the funds to 'mostly Muslim countries' in order to train Muslim youth in rocket/space sciences. It's only fair, ya know. (The biggest chunk is going to Indonesia.

There is no money being 'saved' - indeed, I suspicion that money and even MORE is going to the Muslims -

26 posted on 07/02/2011 5:05:16 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (I AM ISRAEL)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

We better arm our astronauts with lightsabers!

27 posted on 07/02/2011 5:11:40 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Why does NASA NOT have a ready missile AND mission and warhead - or other device of ANY kind - to detect, track, target, launch, and destroy/move an inbound deadly asteroid?

Because the Defense department, not NASA, is in charge of defending us from such deadly threats, whether man-made or natural.

That's a proper role for Defense, which has plenty of launch-and-destroy capability that should be adapted to reach beyond earth orbit.

NASA has crumbled into little more than a politically-correct PR front for bloated government. Its demise would be part of a welcome decline in federal bureaucracy.

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28 posted on 07/02/2011 5:16:17 PM PDT by repentant_pundit (Maybe THIS summer will finally be the "Summer of Recovery")
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

“The space agency’s leaders say everything’s on track, that the private sector will soon launch astronauts into orbit and let NASA focus on the hard work of deep-space exploration.”

The same private sector that NASA oh-so-carefully spent the last twenty years poisoning the well of and killing promising projects off with FUD? That private sector?


29 posted on 07/02/2011 5:16:30 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Cheetahcat

The sad fact remains that due to stupidity we no longer have the capability to build a Saturn V.


30 posted on 07/02/2011 5:17:26 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: olezip
who in the private sector has the resources for space research?

The same kind of people who donate privately to medical research and universities, totaling billions of dollars annually.

There are millions of people who would step up to fund space research, just as there are millions more who would (and do) fund charity.

Especially if the bloated federal government ever gets out of the way and lets American citizens prosper enough to help each other, instead of relying on a failed socialist bureacracy to do everything for us in return for our votes.....including entertaining us occasionally with cool photos from space.

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31 posted on 07/02/2011 5:26:53 PM PDT by repentant_pundit (Maybe THIS summer will finally be the "Summer of Recovery")
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To: Spktyr
NASA has done nothing but defend its turf — fight the private sector tooth and nail for supposed “poaching” on its exclusive domain — space exploration. Now it has NO plans for the future, the Shuttle is going out, and there's no backup. Besides, El Commandante-in-Chief says NASA must now do “outreach” to the world's Muslims! WTF is THAT? Outreach? How do you “outreach” to a 7th century barbarian culture?
32 posted on 07/02/2011 5:27:20 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: MasterGunner01

It’s just means of funneling tech that can be used in bombs and missiles to his terrorist buddies.

As for NASA, I lost all respect for them when they killed off the DC-X program (even after they were given the project) because it threatened the overpriced, overweight and overblown Shuttle.


33 posted on 07/02/2011 5:34:07 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
The expectations of aerospace technology supremacy has
changed somewhat under comrade obama's leadership.


34 posted on 07/02/2011 5:34:24 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
you say: “So all that money that created 10’s of thousands of high paying technical jobs and pumped many hundreds of millions of consumer $$$ into local economies was money wasted... yeah I see the similarity between the Shuttle Program and say the section 8 housing programs of HUD...

Well, let's see - heres’s a link to all the valuable spinoffs from the space program - many of which we use and enjoy everyday with not a clue as to where it was developed:

Hers’ one link where you can explore some of the thousands of things we enjoy today - advantages in technology, computer sciences, aviation, medicine, everyday living - as direct spinoffs from NASA

http://www.nasatech.com/Spinoff/Spinoff2005/contents.html

Would you post a link to the corresponding advantages of “say the section 8 housing programs of HUD” that you compare to our Space Program?

(an aside: I, for one, am not comfortable to leaving the control of Space to China, India, Russia - etc. Guess a lot of you are.)

35 posted on 07/02/2011 5:34:32 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (I AM ISRAEL)
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To: knarf

Teflon was used as gasket material in pipes carrying Uranium Hexaflouride during the Manhattan project. I think it was invented (actually, serendipitously discovered) not long before that.


36 posted on 07/02/2011 5:35:30 PM PDT by Erasmus (I love "The Raven," but then what do I know? I'm just a poetaster.)
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To: maine-iac7
...Messiah ordered NASA to reroute the funds to 'mostly Muslim countries' in order to train Muslim youth in rocket/space sciences

Sickening. Doesn't 0bamby pay attention to the news ?

Muslim "youth" (especially in Iran) are already being trained in rocket science.

Not for space travel, but to deliver nukes.

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37 posted on 07/02/2011 5:39:01 PM PDT by repentant_pundit (Maybe THIS summer will finally be the "Summer of Recovery")
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To: JRandomFreeper

____We can’t build a Saturn V anymore. Your government at work....______

Sure we can, there is one laying on it’s side, intact on the grounds of JSC.

The Saturn V was a great booster in its day but is quite obsolete today.


38 posted on 07/02/2011 5:55:10 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: repentant_pundit; All

NASA To Focus On Muslim Outreach

Feb 2010

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2010/feb/nasa-focus-muslim-outreach


39 posted on 07/02/2011 5:55:13 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (I AM ISRAEL)
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To: repentant_pundit

_____ Muslim “youth” (especially in Iran) are already being trained in rocket science.

Not for space travel, but to deliver nukes.______

I think you make a false assumption that Zero is not intentionally destroying the US.


40 posted on 07/02/2011 6:06:16 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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