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House Panel Members Joust Over Border Gun Program
NY Times ^ | June 30, 2011 | SEAN COLLINS WALSH

Posted on 07/01/2011 3:21:13 PM PDT by neverdem

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A version of this article appeared in print on July 1, 2011, on page A14 of the New York edition with the headline: House Panel Members Joust Over Border Gun Program.
1 posted on 07/01/2011 3:21:17 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
What's going on is clear as crystal to those who understand, clear as mud to the clueless. The Dems are holding competing hearings on gun control to cloud the issue.

It is painfully obvious that they are trying to hide the fact that Holder (and maybe Obama) knew and are trying desperately to keep this from becoming an Iran-Contra-like scandal which could disgust their base.

2 posted on 07/01/2011 3:32:40 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: neverdem

“have focused on what they see as a lapse in American laws involving firearms purchases”

What?! The BATFE agents FORCED licensed gun dealers to BREAK the law. Show how does that show a lapse in the laws?

This is insanity AND stupidity!!!


3 posted on 07/01/2011 3:42:51 PM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Right on. That is exactly what is going on. A massive cover-up by the Democrats. Ya know I find it hard to believe that , so many, so called Americans, half of the Democrats can put out this ration of manure and expect the pub;lic to eat it.Is there no conscience among them at all? Isn’t one of them man enough to tell the truth?

No wonder this country is in such a way. Not a patriot among the whole of the Democrat side of the House, and you Steny Hoyer ,one of the saddest of a sad bunch. You ought to be ashamed.


4 posted on 07/01/2011 3:45:03 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Siena Dreaming

The Dems are holding hearings to try to deflect attention away from the real issue, i.e. what did Obama know and when did he know it?


5 posted on 07/01/2011 3:45:25 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Venturer

I can exp[ect this crap from Elijah Cummings, he represents Baltimore and the Black Congressiona Caucus. He doesnt think himself at all, he just does what they tell him to do. He isn’t smart enough to think, but I would expect one democrat out of the House to be sickened enough by these lies and BS to come forward.


6 posted on 07/01/2011 3:47:25 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: neverdem
ATF Whistleblower Speaks Out
Jun 30, 2011 - 6:15 - Vince Cefalu, who's being pushed out by the agency, discusses the botched gun operation

Fox News interview with senior agent Vince Cefalu. He has been terminated and says about 30 other agents have been terminated due to their opposition to operation Fast and Furious. Says DoJ was intimately involved.


7 posted on 07/01/2011 3:58:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: Venturer
I can exp[ect this crap from Elijah Cummings, he represents Baltimore and the Black Congressiona Caucus. He doesnt think himself at all, he just does what they tell him to do. He isn’t smart enough to think, but I would expect one democrat out of the House to be sickened enough by these lies and BS to come forward.

Maybe a blue/yellow dog will come forward. A lot of them are pro-Second Amendment, or they wouldn't be in office. Only a blind man couldn't see this was a plot to install more gun control at the cost of many dead.

8 posted on 07/01/2011 4:02:59 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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“the border-security strategy that allowed guns to be shipped illegally into Mexico in an effort to track them to drug cartels.”

Aw come on, are they really still trying to get us to believe that was the purpose of the scheme?

This was a blatant attempt to create “fake but accurate” statistics in support of their planned push for a new “Assault Weapon” and normal capacity mag bans!

They are still working on those bans, the Brady bunch recently assured their members that the Obomination is working “Under the radar” to push them through.

“Conspiracy” gets thrown around too casually, but in this case, I believe it IS the operative word.
The Brady bunch and their fellow socialist are dedicated to eradicating an enumerated constitutional right, they should be in prison for sedition.


9 posted on 07/01/2011 4:04:16 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: TigersEye

Thanks for the link.


10 posted on 07/01/2011 4:04:28 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

You’re welcome. Agent Cefalu sounds like he has a lot to say. Apparently quite a few other agents do too or they wouldn’t be getting dumped. There is an active coverup in process.


11 posted on 07/01/2011 4:09:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: TigersEye

Pretty informative that an agency which perpetually complains of being “Understaffed” is dumping tens of agents!


12 posted on 07/01/2011 4:12:59 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: TigersEye

I heard Cefalu speak this week. I sure as Hell hope he has his presentation clear in him mind when he appears before Congress otherwise he will appear the bumbling dunce.


13 posted on 07/01/2011 4:34:54 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: Melchior

He didn’t sound like a bumbler to me.


14 posted on 07/01/2011 4:37:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: neverdem
Republicans, led by Representative Darrell E. Issa, the chairman of the oversight committee, are pushing to blame high-ranking officials in the Obama administration for the operation.

Obama had to sign off on this, probably with a nod of the head to Holder. The plan was to blame gun sales and thus limit gun access for American citizens. They never thought that it would become public knowledge.

15 posted on 07/01/2011 4:41:33 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Venturer

[Is there no conscience among them at all?]

Liberals have no conscience when it gets in the way of their lust for power and control. They are mentally ill and evil.


16 posted on 07/01/2011 4:42:30 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: neverdem

How many more impeachable offenses are going to take place before the pubbies...do something about it.


17 posted on 07/01/2011 5:36:01 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: shield
How many more impeachable offenses are going to take place before the pubbies...do something about it.

IMHO, if Holder doesn't resign, Issa will go for articles of impeachment of him next year. That will put 17 rat senators in a squeeze play. Six other rat senators are retiring. It also puts Obama in a bad light during an election year. That also assumes all those rats involved fall on their swords for Obama.

18 posted on 07/01/2011 5:54:10 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

I’ve been watching this for a while now. I expect it to slowly unfold over the next 6 to12 months into a very bad thing for 0 and Co.


19 posted on 07/01/2011 6:16:58 PM PDT by jdsteel (I like the way the words "Palin for President" make progressives apoplectic.)
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20 posted on 07/01/2011 7:22:40 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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