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Poll: Obama beating Palin in Alaska
Politico ^ | 6/28/2011

Posted on 06/28/2011 4:59:39 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat

A new statewide survey in Alaska shows President Obama beating Sarah Palin in her home state in a head-to-head matchup. Continue Reading

The poll, by Hayes Research Group, had a sample size of 500 likely voters and a 4.4-point margin-of-error.

Still, it showed Obama's support as stronger than Palin's in a horserace.

Some 34 percent said they felt "strong" in backing Obama, while 6 percent were "not so strong," and 2 percent were undecided but leaning toward him.

Palin, Alaska's former governor and the Republican vice presidential nominee in 2008, had 25 percent of likely voters saying they felt "strong" about supporting her, while 6 percent were "not so strong," and 5 percent were unsure but leaning toward her.

Still, there were a large number of undecided voters in the survey, with 7 percent saying they'd support another candidate, and 16 percent saying they remained undecided.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: obama; palin
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To: Eska

Really then who voted for that ding bat woman senator.


101 posted on 06/28/2011 7:05:52 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: RecoveringPaulisto

Any data for that? What’s her favoribility now vs say 3 months ago?


102 posted on 06/28/2011 7:05:59 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: muleskinner

“They don’t like Sarah because they see her as an opportunist...”

Sarah ABSOLUTELY, by definition, IS an opportunist.

In my mind that is not necessarily a bad thing.

Opportunities are the guns of politics. A tool for Evil, a tool for Good.

Evil giggled when Obama capitalized on this generation’s irrational white-guilt and slanted media.

Good triumphed when, for a switch, a Rino pulled BullTwinkle the Moose Killer out of a hat just as the show was snoring off into one of those Dudley DoLeft cartoons.

I’m glad the local conservative grabbed the national RINO’s ring of opportunity. Whether she runs or not, it’s nice to have another fairly consistent conservative voice in the national spotlight. But then I don’t live in Alaska.

“She’d be foolish to run with all the $$$ rolling in.”

The only way I can imagine her making less money in the long run is if she runs and loses. If that is what’s holding up the show here, then she is something worse than an opportunist. I think the technical word for it would be “chicken”.


103 posted on 06/28/2011 7:09:48 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: BuddhaBrown
They hate Obama in Alsaka

How much money has he cost them in Oil Checks?

104 posted on 06/28/2011 7:13:52 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: GR_Jr.
This is sarcasm by the way.......

Yes but plenty of truth in your sarcasm! You are saying it like it is.

Go SARAH - America's proven Conservative Fighter! She's fight like it's 1773! ALL PATRIOTS are ON BOARD!
105 posted on 06/28/2011 7:14:55 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( The Palin Party: The Party of Patriots.)
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To: scooby321

They benefit from increased prices, so I doubt they’re that upset.


106 posted on 06/28/2011 7:18:40 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: RecoveringPaulisto
At this point either she runs, endorses someone soon, or looks like an opportunist guaranteed.

What's the rush, newbie? Tagging her as an opportunist because she doesn't jump to your/the media's liking?
107 posted on 06/28/2011 7:20:01 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( The Palin Party: The Party of Patriots.)
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To: Tolsti2

For one, her favorability is up with me. 3 months ago I’d have told you Palin was a no-good quitter out for fame and fortune. That’s data.

Proof: http://recovering-liberal.blogspot.com/2011/06/new-apgfk-poll-palin-rates-higher-than.html

The documentary will help tremendously. It already has. The problem with Palin is the fact that the media gets to dog on her without a response that is heard by many. All they have heard is that Palin is a right-wing extremist quitter out for money who says stupid stuff. You can’t get a more negative picture about a candidate than the one the media has painted for Palin. Her approval is bound to go up with a shot at the spotlight.


108 posted on 06/28/2011 7:21:38 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Really. Who won the primary in Alaska, Joe or Lisa? What happened after that.

If you want to be taken serious - post the facts. You probably are pleased about the outcome - so you don’t post what really went down. You can only fool the uninformed - like the media does daily.


109 posted on 06/28/2011 7:24:50 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( The Palin Party: The Party of Patriots.)
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To: Windflier

Do you not see the evidence ALL OVER that she cannot beat him?

It’s not enough that Obama himself is unpopular...we have to have a nominee LESS unpopular than Barry.

About the only politicians in the country less popular than Obama right now are Pelosi and Palin.


110 posted on 06/28/2011 7:25:05 PM PDT by RockinRight (Cain/Bachmann, Bachmann/Rubio, or, if you really want some fun, Cain/McCotter in 2012!)
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To: rintense

For maybe a week I did. Trump did succeed in one thing, and that was making some of the candidates speak up.

And guess what, he couldn’t beat Obama according to the few polls done, and neither can Palin...all this running around she’s doing, and her poll numbers have not improved.


111 posted on 06/28/2011 7:26:47 PM PDT by RockinRight (Cain/Bachmann, Bachmann/Rubio, or, if you really want some fun, Cain/McCotter in 2012!)
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To: presently no screen name

She’s running around in early primary states in what can only be described as a campaign bus, showing up wherever the candidates are. Yeah, she’s either running or soaking up media attention. I’m not saying she necessarily has negative intentions, even if her intent is to soak up media attention. She has made the media look ridiculous over the past month, and that’s good, and that might be her intent. However, the media will be able to paint her as an opportunist if she doesn’t do one of those things.

Note: I said “looks like” not “is.”


112 posted on 06/28/2011 7:27:11 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: Republican Wildcat
This is Hays Research on the 2010 Senatorial race, along with actual dates:

The actual results? Murkowski 39%, Miller 35%, McAdams 23%. Bottom line is that Hays appears to oversample Democratic voters.

113 posted on 06/28/2011 7:27:49 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: RockinRight

Anyone relying on polls now is jumping the gun.


114 posted on 06/28/2011 7:28:44 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: Jack Hammer

I understand the poll was conducted at the Anchorage LGBT Convention /s


115 posted on 06/28/2011 7:29:01 PM PDT by JewishRighter ( Multiculturalism is killing us.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Actually, the study was conducted by the Hays -- not Hayes -- Research Group. It might be nice if The Politico actually troubled themselves to check the spelling of their sources.

One of the few aspects of methodology revealed in the poll was the "likely voter" selection mechanism. Usually this is extremely complex and involves screening questions in addition to voting patterns. In this study only one metric is used to determine likelihood: did the respondent vote in 2 of the last 4 statewide elections? Given the number of 0bama voters and energy level in 2008, and the number of weirdo voters necessary for Murkowski to pull off her write-in campaign in 2010, I would say this is probably a very suspect measure in a statewide poll of AK, but to be fair sometimes simpler is better. [I don't know of any major pollsters who just use frequency alone as a measure of likelihood, however...]

The study does not provide any breakdown of self-identification of R/I/D, which is a red flag. It is also a red flag that 34% of respondents feel very strongly about backing 0bama. That is very high, and coupled with the fact that they don't identify their sample self-identification would lead one to believe they are very strongly over-selecting Democrats: among R/I voters who favor 0bama in unbiased polls, his "strong" numbers are very poor.

The Hays Research Group web page says nothing about sampling methodology, except their non-response bias mitigation technique. However, they do not indicate what their final nonresponse number was, which is also a red flag.

Given that the sample is small, nonresponse bias would be a serious issue if present. (It's always a serious issue, but for a sample this small it could make the results nothing more than noise.)

Given they don't really release any of the internals or methodology, I'd say it's probably crap. The most important lesson to take away from this is that you're going to see a lot of very silly polling results released between now and next November. But you will not see any silly ones which favor Republicans, certainly none that favor Conservatives. That in itself is a selection-bias indicator.

You can also take away from this, as Dennis Green might say (of The Politico): "They are who we thought they were."

116 posted on 06/28/2011 7:29:42 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("Nothing now is sacred, but infamy.")
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To: RockinRight

Not so says the polls: http://recovering-liberal.blogspot.com/2011/06/new-apgfk-poll-palin-rates-higher-than.html

Not to mention, her Republican nomination numbers went up after that. She was usually down in the lower teens, but now they’ve stopped including her because she started beating Romney in the polls. Most indies aren’t watching right now, so there doesn’t have to be a massive shift in order to demonstrate “electability,” only enough of a shift to show she is winning over those she is coming in contact with, which she is doing.


117 posted on 06/28/2011 7:31:05 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: Tolsti2

Do you think Sarah Palin will not carry the states she and McCain carried in the last election? How can that be?


118 posted on 06/28/2011 7:31:48 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: RockinRight
Do you not see the evidence ALL OVER that she cannot beat him?

Oh, I see it plain as day all over the state-run media. In the real world, the evidence is quite the contrary.

119 posted on 06/28/2011 7:31:48 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Thanks for the chart. I came to pretty much the same conclusion by examining what little methodology they provided (previous post.)


120 posted on 06/28/2011 7:33:08 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("Nothing now is sacred, but infamy.")
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