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Pelosi demands a seat at the table in final talks on the debt-ceiling
The Hill ^ | June 25, 2011 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 06/25/2011 4:12:13 PM PDT by Second Amendment First

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) will demand a seat in the table for the final talks on the national debt limit, putting a strong liberal voice in the room.

Pelosi and House Democrats were left out of the negotiations between President Obama and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) last year that extended nearly all of the Bush tax rates though 2012.

Pelosi didn’t participate in the final high-level talks over fiscal 2011 spending levels either.

But now she’s demanding her say at a time when many of her House Democratic colleagues are disappointed in Obama’s level of consultation with their caucus.

“If they don’t have the votes, House Democrats have to be at the table,” said a House Democratic leadership aide.

Pelosi stayed out of the talks on crafting a continuing resolution funding the rest of 2011 that included $38.5 billion in spending cuts because House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) expressed confidence they would pass it without Democratic help.

But, in the end of that debate, the Republican votes fell short, and GOP leaders needed help from House Democrats. Democrats went along with a deal they had almost no part in negotiating because they wanted to avert a government shutdown.

The experience left a bitter taste in their mouths, and Pelosi won’t let it happen again.

Although she is the minority leader in a chamber that gives the minority party few powers, Pelosi believes she has leverage in the debt-limit debate.

“We know that they do not have 218 votes for any package that increases the debt limit,” said the Democratic leadership aide of House Republican leaders.

Flexing her muscle, Pelosi asked for and got a meeting with Obama on Thursday morning to discuss the next phase in the negotiations.

A last-minute defection of conservative Tea Party-affiliated lawmakers forced Boehner to rely on Democratic help in April. Pelosi believes it will be only tougher for him to round up his conference to support a compromise on the debt limit.

Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), a leader of the Senate Tea Party caucus, warned of this on Friday when he told ABC News that Republicans who voted for a debt-limit increase without massive spending cuts and a balanced budget amendment would lose reelection.

“Based on what I can see around the country … not only are those individuals gone, but I would suspect the Republican Party would be set back many years,” DeMint said.

“It would be the most toxic vote,” he said.

House Democrats are growing increasingly frustrated with Obama over what they see as his unwillingness to take a stand against Republicans on taxes and proposed cuts to Medicare. They also grumble that his infrequent outreach to their caucus is a sign of political naivety.

Their suspicions about a brewing debt-limit deal were raised last month when Vice President Biden said cuts to Medicare were on the table. Meanwhile, the GOP negotiators, Senate Republican Whip Jon Kyl (Ariz.) and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (Va.) insisted tax increases were off the table.

Several House Democrats made their displeasure known when the caucus met with the president at the White House earlier this month. Lawmakers emerged from the meeting determined their party should not capitulate to Republicans on taxes and Medicare cuts.

House Democrats are skeptical over Obama’s willingness to take a hard-line in the end-stage talks, especially after how negotiations of the Bush tax rates played out last year.

They felt jammed by Obama and Republican leaders when forced in December to vote on a package extending major tax cuts for the nation’s wealthiest families. Their anger over that deal has only intensified after Republicans have used the budget deficit as a justification to chop spending social programs across the board, including Medicare.

As with the package of spending cuts in April, Democrats were given a last-minute ultimatum: pass a two-year extension of the Bush tax cuts and a one-year extension of unemployment benefits or take the blame for allowing tax rates, including those for the middle class, to rise.

Pelosi is the strongest liberal voice in the Democratic leadership. She kept her position as Democratic leader in November after Democrats lost the House in a landslide by promising her caucus’s large liberal wing that she would fight for their priorities. The debt-limit talks are her chance to make good on that pledge.

Congressional leaders kept Pelosi out of the talks on the 2011 spending cuts and justified it by keeping McConnell on the sidelines as well.

McConnell still had input because he talks to Boehner at least twice a week and their staffs kept in close contact during the negotiations to avert a government shutdown.

Pelosi doesn’t have as tight a relationship with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).

The debt-limit talks that were led by Biden came to an end last week when Cantor pulled out and said it was time for Obama to get involved. Reps. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) and James Clyburn (D-S.C.) represented House Democrats in those meetings.

Now the talks have moved to the very highest leadership levels with Obama planning to meet Reid and McConnell on Monday.

The president held a secret meeting with Boehner on Wednesday night.

Pelosi has made it clear that this time she intends be a part of that elite group as well.


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I'm sure that will help. /s
1 posted on 06/25/2011 4:12:15 PM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First
Pelosi demands a seat at the table in final talks on the debt-ceiling

So long as its an electric chair, I'm fine with it..

2 posted on 06/25/2011 4:14:18 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Second Amendment First

Pelosi has no leverage. She has no power. Boehner should rub her nose in it.


3 posted on 06/25/2011 4:17:40 PM PDT by y6162
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To: Michael Barnes

Let’s what the POTUS Obama is made of. If he allows Pelosi in the room,, he is not the POTUS, she is!!! I suspect Obama will kiss the Pelosi butt, since he never has lifted a finger on any legislation at all. This should be some freak show with Pelosi, Reid and Obama, better known as the Moron Trio leading the USA to economic destruction. Yes, America, elections do have consequences. Are you not really proud of yourselves???


4 posted on 06/25/2011 4:20:28 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Second Amendment First

NO...just say no. She lost that right when the Democrats lost the house!


5 posted on 06/25/2011 4:24:25 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Second Amendment First

Send her home on Southwest Airlines. Coach class and near the end of the line for boarding. The witch thinks she is in a position to make demands after the way she behaved as Speaker. Take a hike.


6 posted on 06/25/2011 4:24:32 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Second Amendment First

Demands? ha ha ha


7 posted on 06/25/2011 4:26:22 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Second Amendment First

LOOK at how many times that Prune faced Skank locked the Republicans completely out, Then even turned out the lights and power to the microphones.

Drop dead you communist POS and if the wino Bonehead gives her voice here, he needs to resign that day!!!!!!!!!


8 posted on 06/25/2011 4:28:55 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Keep her out of the room and tell her that they will have to pass the bill before she will know what is in it!


9 posted on 06/25/2011 4:31:41 PM PDT by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
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To: Second Amendment First

Sit down Nancy and shut up. Just like you told the Reps to do a while back. Remember...”We won.”

But Bohner, R-Democrat will have his boss at the table no doubt.


10 posted on 06/25/2011 4:35:24 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Second Amendment First

Give her a ticket to another U2 concert. That’ll shut her up. She’s got the hots for the Bono.


11 posted on 06/25/2011 4:35:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When the going gets tough, the tough check themselves into "rehab".)
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To: engrpat

Best line I’ve heard in a long time !!!


12 posted on 06/25/2011 4:36:27 PM PDT by maine yankee
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To: Second Amendment First

I’ll bet she gets just what she demands. Who’s gonna stop her? Boehner? Good luck there.


13 posted on 06/25/2011 4:38:32 PM PDT by Graneros ("It is no exaggeration to say that the undecided could go one way or another.")
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To: Second Amendment First

A ‘whoopie cushion’ would be appropriate, don’t you think, for that ‘seat at the table’?


14 posted on 06/25/2011 4:41:55 PM PDT by SAJ (Zerobama -- a phony and a prick, therefore a dildo)
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To: Second Amendment First

Somebody get her a high chair. Wait, isn’t it time for her nap?


15 posted on 06/25/2011 4:46:06 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Second Amendment First

Pelosi is a senile bully. She has zero command of budget data. She will go there to bully participants and preen for the TV cameras


16 posted on 06/25/2011 4:47:12 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: Second Amendment First

Go away stretch.


17 posted on 06/25/2011 4:50:24 PM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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Sheesh....so, she can say..."well, you have to wait until we pass it to see what's in it???"

SIT DOWN, Pelosi....you are irrelevant.

18 posted on 06/25/2011 4:51:59 PM PDT by goodnesswins (...both islam and the democrat plantation thrive on poverty)
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To: Second Amendment First

How often did Pelosi let the Republican leaders have a say when she was ramming Obamacare through the House? Do unto others.....


19 posted on 06/25/2011 4:53:12 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: dennisw

“putting a strong liberal voice in the room.”

More like a senile, pathetic babbler in the room!


20 posted on 06/25/2011 4:54:25 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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