Posted on 06/25/2011 12:11:49 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
In the 1850s, on the steps of the Waco courthouse, Wallace Jefferson’s great-great-great-grandfather was sold. Today, Jefferson is chief justice of Texas’s Supreme Court. The governor who nominated him also nominated the state’s first Latina justice. Rick Perry, 61, the longest-serving governor in Texas history and, in his 11th year, currently the nation’s senior governor, says these nominations are two of his proudest accomplishments.
French cuffs and cowboy boots are, like sauerkraut ice cream, an eclectic combination, but Perry, who wears both, is a potentially potent candidate for the Republican presidential nomination because his political creed is uneclectic, matching that of the Republican nominating electorate. He was a “10th Amendment conservative” (“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people”) before the Tea Party appeared. And before Barack Obama’s statism — especially Obamacare’s individual mandate — catalyzed concern for the American project of limited government.
Social issues, especially abortion, are gateways to the Republican nominating electorate: In today’s climate of economic fear, a candidate’s positions on social issues will not be decisive with his electorate — but they can be disqualifying. Perry — an evangelical Christian, like most Republican participants in Iowa’s caucuses and the South Carolina primary — emphatically qualifies.
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The Republican contest probably will become a binary choice — Romney and the Not Romney candidate. If Perry becomes the latter, he will do so by his visceral appeal to social conservatives, and by trumping Romney’s economic expertise with “Texas exceptionalism”:.....
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
That is funny, I don’t see democrats being AT ALL concerned about Illegalism. Unless it is how to increase it as much as they can get away with.
BS! It has repeatedly been done by TSA. TSA inspectors and their managers have been shown to be arrogant SOB Idiots.
I was only commenting on constitutionality not the size of the government so lets be clear about that. The contention was that there was no constitutional authority to establish the TSA. That is simply false.
Nor is it true that the Commerce clause only applied to state regulation and tazes. It was a broad grant of power. Commerce is not even possible except on a very limited basis without transportation. Only on a feudal basis, this was well understood by the Founders. It was clear that throughout history the periods of high civilization all occurred after transportation made is possible international and interregional trade. After the roads and seas had been made safe for carrying goods from country to country.
It is absurd to pretend that companies whose business is travel are not commerce or that companies whose business is moving goods from place to place are not commerce. They are controlled by COMMERCIAL law.
Sorry, but I don’t believe a word of this.
I wonder how many GOP POTUS candidates would play ball with the amnesty crowd if elected. Michelle Bachman was on Fox News Sunday today, and (surprise!) Chris Wallace asked nothing about amnesty. In 2010, she co-sponsored the anti-amnesty pledge resolution in the House, so she may be OK at least in that respect, but maybe Wallace (and the other question-askers) just doesn’t want to ask the question.
When is the last time Romney was asked about amnesty?
Even when the question comes out, the standard tactic is, “I will secure the border.” Even Obama says that.
I don’t hate the Mexican people, but I don’t want them voting here.
Bachmann has been well grounded. It’s shocking to see the level of vitriol leveled at her here.
This is one more issue that she gets, that isn’t even on other people’s radar.
I know of one person that wants to register illegals so they can stay here and work. That’s their honest not-an-amnesty solution.
Good grief.
Your assertion that the interstate commerce clause is a broad grant of power is simply bogus. It wasn’t. It was not interpreted that way until well after the Constitution was ratified in the 20th century. The Founders intended that the provision be used to free up interstate commerce, not tie it down in Federal bureaucracy, which they did not even foresee existing at all.
Furthermore, even granting that the TSA is constitutional, which it isn’t, its procedures are not matters of Federal law. The Constitution nowhere grants the Feds the right to do what the bill wants to forbid, and specifically it in the 4th amendment (I do not recall giving up my 4th amendment rights because I want to fly cross country), and so the Supremacy Clause does not apply. Furthermore, the TSA scans/frisks people regardless of whether they are flying interstate or simply intrastate.
The Supremacy Clause only applies to the Constitution and laws made pursuant to the Constitution. TSA scans/frisks are not laws made pursuant to the Constitution, nor are they “necessary and proper” to enforcing a law made pursuant to the Constitution. Therefore, the Supremacy Clause does not apply.
Here is one problem. A candidate says he opposes amnesty, and then after being elected, as liz and sickoflibs posted, "I am not talking about amnesty. I am only talking about a path to legalization...." In order to get elected, they avoid talking about immigration, if possible, until after being elected.
I know of one person that wants to register illegals so they can stay here and work. That’s their honest not-an-amnesty solution.
I thought about that. Even if the economy was booming, "They can stay here and work" would still lead to them voting in our elections, unless there was a Constitutional amendment to prevent it, and even then, "Wise Latinas" would try to find a way to ignore it.
Of course, it would also confirm the world's suspicions that we will never take immigration and border security seriously, and endless invasions.
Eventually, even after an amnesty in this decade, we would hear more calls for a new "path to citizenship," which our new leftist government, elected by hordes of new hard-left voters, would find hard to resist.
Those amnesty arguments are important. It’s why we simply cannot sign on to a plan to legalize the illegals staying here.
As I understand it, if you work here for six years, you are eligible to petition to get a work permit. From there, citizenship is a given, if you want it.
Just say no, to illegals remaining in this nation. PERIOD!
And they keep trying to add new "opportunities" for illegals.
Do not forget that Rick Perry called those who wish to enforce existing law and close borders as “extremists”. It is GWB redux. Heh, Sorry Rick, no cigar.
Could I get a link to that?
The constitution is very general and deliberately so. Did the Founders foresee flight as an important concern of the federal authorities? No, not likely but they provided a framework within which it could be handled. They did have the concept of a mighty empire whose bounds stretched from sea to see. That would be impossible without the constitutional authority to coordinate and regulation fields never considered in 1787. Had they meant to limit the authority to state rules and regulations they would have said so.
Nor will the fourth amendment allow people to fly unsearched. They can retain that right and refuse but they will not be allowed to fly. Airlines have an overriding right to prevent bringing on board of items they want to exclude. Fourth amendment rights have nothing to prevent that.
Your opinion of what is or isn’t constitutional has no bearing or force other than that of opinion and isn’t not based upon anything other than your dislike of the searches.
From The Daily Kos:
Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 10:54 AM PDT.
Why Rick Perry is Very Very Scary
(Exerpts)
If you are not concerned about Perry running on the Texas job creation numbers that the Dallas Fed officially reported, look below the squiggly thing and consider the remarks in a speech to a local Dallas trade group by Richard W. Fischer, President of the Dallas Fed, in which he squarely credits Texas job growth to Perry’s insane, laissez faire Republican agenda of no taxes, no services and no regulation and corporate supremacy in all things.
He’s (Perry) the kind of candidate to whom everyday Americans can relate. He has an abundance of political skills, which explains why this career politician has never lost an election. He is affable, charming and a great campaigner.
Rick Perry is coming. Rick Perry is a sitting Governor in a state that can be portrayed as thriving in an election focused on jobs. the economy and the validity of Republican governing philosophy. Rick Perry will storm to the Republican nomination with his jobs record, political skill and impeccable Tea Party credentials. Rick Perry is playing the ant in a Texas remake of Aesop’s Fable, The Grasshopper and the Ant, but Winter won’t come until after the 2012 election. Rick Perry is very very scary.
If you’re not scared yet, consider these remarks from one of the debunkers of Perry’s economic record who, as a newspaper reporter and columnist in Dallas, knows the Governor very well:
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From the Kos forum:
And Perry also has (2+ / 0-)
Recommended by:cassandracarolina, LeftOfYou
the bona fides to bring out all of the religious conservative vote in a way that Romney or Pawlenty never could. He’s got enough Huckabee in him.
by Leap Year on Sun Jun 26, 2011 at 12:26:16 PM PDT
Koz readers took a poll:
Rick Perry in 2012?
He’s Bush Lite; no worries.
4% 5 votes
He’s far too extreme for a general election; no worries.
11% 12 votes
He’s a contender, but very beatable.
19% 21 votes
If he runs strong in the Midwest, he’ll be trouble for Obama.
14% 16 votes
Perry is scary; he could win with enough corrupt corporate lies and attacks.
38% 41 votes
Inaugurate him now and save all the trouble.
11% 12 votes
| 107 votes | Vote | Results | Vote
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/26/988522/-Why-Rick-Perry-is-Very-Very-Scary?via=tag
From Democratic Underground forum:
(On Perry)
“You have no idea how much money this person has behind him. I do not want to say the sky is falling in but he and his machine are dangerous.”
“For anyone that is laughing off Perry’s ambitions. Do not underestimate Perry’s appeal. Perry is a real threat. He is slicker than wet dog shit and a will draw a freight train of big money to back his run.
The current incarnation of the repug party will LOVE Perry if he gets in the race. People outside of Texas just don’t know much about him. Enough of the squishy middle will vote for him just because he’s not Obama.
A Perry administration would be a disaster.”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=433
The Leftist long knifes are out.
A President Perry has them all wee-wee-up!
They’re scared of him. If Perry decides to run, what they did to Palin will seem like a picnic.
I think he’s up to it.
” RINO TOXICITY “I am only talking about a path to legalization for ‘undocumented workers’ that ‘ respect US laws‘.”
Words like “undocumented worker” and “path to amnesty” are toxic—— will get the RINO nothing but political oblivion. LOL. “
Goodbye, Mr Perry......
OK, Perry is not here to defend himself so I will continue to guess what he would say(in 2007 anyway LOL) :
“ You have me all wrong. I am not for amnesty. That would be rewarding lawbreakers. I want them to pay a ‘fine’ and register with authorities and get on the back of the line. Look, we cant deport millions of hard working law biding undocumented workers. Let's all work together to bring them out of the shadows, get them registered, provide a path to citizenship to those that ‘respect our laws’ (except immigration laws) , and they will help me win election, and expand the Republican party. Most of them are really conservatives like me”.
Geeze, I enjoyed that :) Amazing that this was the crap the last administration was pushing and the Koolaid drinkers were drinking.
L O L
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