Amos and Andy and The Book of Mormon

The Washington Post - National ^ | June 15, 2011 | John Mark Reynolds

[Saundra Duffy]

The creators of the play Book of Mormon have created the Amos and Andy for the South Park set. We may laugh, but our grandchildren will shudder as decent folk do at “wits” of the last century whose favorite dance was to “jump Jim Crow.”

The parts of the Book of Mormon I have seen are as innovative as a Newsies revival and as funny as the cruel, tasteless jokes told by an inebriated coworker at a Christmas party. The difference is that the coworker might sober up in the morning, but the mindless mockery that also gave us South Park will continue.

After all, the theater establishment toasted the two with Tony’s and the insiders would never cheapen themselves by rewarding a play for picking on a minority religion loathed in the theater community or behave like decadent Romans horrified by a growing moral minority comforting the libertines by mocking the moral.

I cannot know for sure without seeing the entire play. If we assume the play a brilliant satire with PR unfortunate enough to release only the cruel and facile bits, then we are still left with two unfortunate truths about this play. First, the writers are cowards. They inflict pain and mockery on those already despised while going soft on the tired assumptions of their rich and powerful patrons. Second, in a pluralistic society they have targeted a group already misunderstood and discriminated against.

[Elsie]

give it a a rest you can try to call it what you want but all of the anti’s MORMONism's pass behavior speak loud and clear!

And; they so WONDERFULLY have put it in WRITING for the whole WORLD to see!

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Are you STILL eating MEAT against your Lord's wishes?

[SZonian]

Is this why we’re still here and most of your mormon ping list has been zotted?

Whose behavior is on trial here Resty?

What’s apparent to me in reading through this thread is that it’s not the information contained in the posts that is the problem, it’s the FReepers who post it.

I note that even SD abandoned the thread when others who are not of the FI’s began to post in opposition to mormonISM. Called them liars for doing so, but as usual, offered nothing to support her false witness.

I thank God for sending the FI’s to FR and having the courage in witnessing to me and others who have either left mormonism or who have been swayed into not joining the church.

Through them, I saw the saving grace of Jesus Christ and the love that they have for all who are lost.

Yes, they’re behavior spoke loud and clear and the message was received. I’m now saved through grace, through the cleansing blood of Jesus Christ.

Not works, not temple ordinances with absolutely no basis in biblical scripture, no work for the dead, no eternal celestial polygamy, etc., etc.

You too can be free of the unbiblical concepts and ordinances of mormonism. All you have to do is ask Jesus Christ. The One I AM, not the “spirit brother of lucifer” as mormons teach.

[Elsie]

...they act more like jackals

That jackASS guy just managed to kill himself by drinking and driving.

And JACK.. (sorry) JOSeph Smith managed to get himself killed by failing to listen to what his spirit guide told him:

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"Joseph; I advise you not to go to that jail."

 

"Darn gnats!!"

 

 

"Joseph; I'm telling you to not to go to that jail."

 

"Flies are BAD today!!"

 

 

"Joseph; It ain't gonna be pretty if you ignore me and go to that jail!"

 

"Crummy mosquitos are EVERYWHERE!!!"

 

 

"Joseph!  Do NOT go to that jail!"

 

"And those bedbugs really savaged me last night, too!"

 

 

"JOSEPH!!  Wake up boy!   Do Not Go To That JAIL!!!"

 

"All right Sheriff - here I am, so give me a nice room while my Lawyer, my Advocate, my Comforter presents the LAW to the Judge and I am VINDICATED!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Elsie]

...statements of jackals in post #217.

"L" isn't even on the same side of the keyboard as "S".

[Elsie]

Didja ever wonder about the things that the MORMON Creed is refering to in item #8??

We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

Just exactly WHAT is considered WRONG in the BIBLE??

Well; Old Joseph labored hard and long to CORRECT it; but the MORMON hierarchy doesn't consider it to be SCRIPTURE - do NOT ask me why.

Here is a small sample of the badly mangled BIBLE and the PURITY of Joseph Smith's TRANSLATION:

Let's compare KJV to JST:

King James Version John 1 1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2. The same was in the beginning with God. 3. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13. Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15. John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16. And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. 19. And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou? 20. And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. 21. And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. 22. Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? 23. He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias. 24. And they which were sent were of the Pharisees. 25. And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet? 26. John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; 27. He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose. 28. These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing. 29. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. 30. This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. 31. And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. 32. And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 34. And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

Joseph Smith Translation John 1 1 In the beginning was the gospel preached through the Son. And the gospel was the word, and the word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made which was made. 4 In him was the gospel, and the gospel was the life, and the life was the light of men; 5 And the light shineth in the world, and the world perceiveth it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came into the world for a witness, to bear witness of the light, to bear record of the gospel through the Son, unto all, that through him men might believe. 8 He was not that light, but came to bear witness of that light, 9 Which was the true light, which lighteth every man who cometh into the world; 10 Even the Son of God. He who was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God; only to them who believe on his name. 13 He was born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the same word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 John bear witness of him, and cried, saying, This is he of whom I spake; He who cometh after me, is preferred before me; for he was before me. 16 For in the beginning was the Word, even the Son, who is made flesh, and sent unto us by the will of the Father, And as many as believe on his name shall receive of his fulness. And of his fullness have all we received, even immortality and eternal life, through his grace. 17 For the law was given through Moses, but life and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 For the law was after a carnal commandment, to the administration of death; but the gospel was after the power of an endless life, through Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father. 19 And no man hath seen God at any time, except he hath borne record of the Son; for except it is through him no man can be saved. 20 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem, to ask him; Who art thou? 21 And he confessed, and denied not that he was Elias; but confessed, saying; I am not the Christ. 22 And they asked him, saying; How then art thou Elias? And he said, I am not that Elias who was to restore all things. And they asked him, saying, Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. 23 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? 24 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as saith the prophet Esaias. 25 And they who were sent were of the Pharisees. 26 And they asked him, and said unto him; Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not the Christ, nor Elias who was to restore all things, neither that prophet? 27 John answered them, saying; I baptize with water, but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; 28 He it is of whom I bear record. He is that prophet, even Elias, who, coming after me, is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose, or whose place I am not able to fill; for he shall baptize, not only with water, but with fire, and with the Holy Ghost. 29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and said; Behold the Lamb of God, who taketh away the sin of the world! 30 And John bare record of him unto the people, saying, This is he of whom I said; After me cometh a man who is preferred before me; for he was before me, and I knew him, and that he should be made manifest to Israel; therefore am I come baptizing with water. 31 And John bare record, saying; When he was baptized of me, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 32 And I knew him; for he who sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me; Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he who baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 33 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God. 34 These things were done in Bethabara, beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing.

[Elsie]

Not works, not temple ordinances with absolutely no basis in biblical scripture, no work for the dead, no eternal celestial polygamy, etc., etc.

Ha!

They ain't mentioned in any MORMON 'scripture' either!!

They are mere "Teachings of Men"!

[Elsie]

(Joe could not seem to keeps his bears and his bares straight...)

[Elsie]

bttt

[svcw]

THX 1138

[greyfoxx39]

I’m now saved through grace, through the cleansing blood of Jesus Christ.

Not works, not temple ordinances with absolutely no basis in biblical scripture, no work for the dead, no eternal celestial polygamy, etc., etc.

You too can be free of the unbiblical concepts and ordinances of mormonism. All you have to do is ask Jesus Christ. The One I AM, not the “spirit brother of lucifer” as mormons teach.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

[svcw]

Keeping it front and center, place marker.

[BlueMoose]

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/glenn-beck-wife-attacked/2011/06/28/id/401794?s=al&promo_code=C85C-1

[Elsie]

OOOOooooh!

...Beck described the incident and said an angry moviegoer kicked a glass of wine onto his wife Tania’s back, and as she got up to walk away, a man shouted: “We hate conservatives here.”

Saundra Duffey can tell you of an incident where another MORMON got a glass of WATER thrown on them!

[Tennessee Nana]

an angry moviegoer kicked a glass of wine onto his wife Tania’s back
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Good morning Elsie !!!

Was that a drop kick or a field goal ???

Laces out !!!

[Elsie]

Are you STILL eating MEAT against your Lord's wishes?

[Elsie]

...what bothered him “was the cowardly behavior of the hateful crowd,” he wrote...

What he FAILED to write, was...

"...a man shouted: “We hate conservatives MORMONs here.”

As any LDS apologist on FR can tell you; THAT is the REAL motivation behind the vitrol that is sent Glenn's and Mitt's (and even Jon's) way!

There were probably Flying Inmen in the crowd; inciting the usefull idiots to ATTACK! poor Tania!

[greyfoxx39]

I have my questions about this incident.

Beck has boasted many times about the "security" he employs. Why in the world would he believe that he could attend something like this without having his security with him?

For someone who spends his life seeking attention, believing he could safely subject his family to possible danger by taking them into this situation with no protection shows his lack of....(wait for it)..."discernment".

He's lucky his family wasn't faced with more than a glass of wine. Stupid, stupid decision?.....or a ploy for sympathy? I wonder if this has caused an uptick in popularity of his site.

[svcw]

I was wondering the same thing. I do not doubt that there could have been an incident, but he does say frequently he is threatened and he must now have security, so why did he take his child and wife to a very public place without his security? (he never mentions that they were there, and if they were they did a piss poor job of protection).

[Elsie]

pour job on a wall...