Amos and Andy and The Book of Mormon

The Washington Post - National ^ | June 15, 2011 | John Mark Reynolds

[Saundra Duffy]

The creators of the play Book of Mormon have created the Amos and Andy for the South Park set. We may laugh, but our grandchildren will shudder as decent folk do at “wits” of the last century whose favorite dance was to “jump Jim Crow.”

The parts of the Book of Mormon I have seen are as innovative as a Newsies revival and as funny as the cruel, tasteless jokes told by an inebriated coworker at a Christmas party. The difference is that the coworker might sober up in the morning, but the mindless mockery that also gave us South Park will continue.

After all, the theater establishment toasted the two with Tony’s and the insiders would never cheapen themselves by rewarding a play for picking on a minority religion loathed in the theater community or behave like decadent Romans horrified by a growing moral minority comforting the libertines by mocking the moral.

I cannot know for sure without seeing the entire play. If we assume the play a brilliant satire with PR unfortunate enough to release only the cruel and facile bits, then we are still left with two unfortunate truths about this play. First, the writers are cowards. They inflict pain and mockery on those already despised while going soft on the tired assumptions of their rich and powerful patrons. Second, in a pluralistic society they have targeted a group already misunderstood and discriminated against.

[Morpheus2009]

“I would much rather be marooned on a desert island with a group of Mormons than with your typical crowd of NY theater goers.”

I would agree to that, had I been in said situation.

“The fact is that in contemporary America, there are some religious groups—Evangelicals, believing Catholics, Mormons—that are fair game for overt ridicule, scorn and bigotry in the popular culture. Other groups—Jews and Muslims—must be treated with kid gloves. Why is that?”

There is little political scorn, or supposed threat of facing wrath for going after Mormonism or Catholicism. So those two groups are therefore easy targets for now.

My final thought would be that personally, I had very little for the South Park show, or other things made by it’s producers who made this musical anyways. Rude, Crude, Humor wasn’t that great anyways, and I wouldn’t bother with watching any material from the same two guys anyways, the money I could spend on some Broadway Ticket to this show could be better spent by me somewhere else.

[Elsie]

I present historical fact:

Bah!

You KNOW that we done need no steekin' FACTS!!

^{At least I don't!!)}

[Elsie]

Missionaries share The Book of Mormon why you would have the other books I don’t know.

Resty; have I ever thanked you for the link to missionaries that is on your FR homepage???

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Professor Robert Millet        teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted

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Timeline...    Subject...

 

0:59           "Anti-Mormons..."

1:16           "ATTACK the faith you have..."

2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."

3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."

[Elsie]

I know The Book of Mormon is true and The Book of Mormon Testifies of the Bible and this is the Lord’s Jesus Christ restored Church once again upon the earth.

I think I can...

I think I can...

I think I can...

[Elsie]

The Book of Mormon Testifies of Christ

Rmember what James said about asking GOD for answers???

James 2:19

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

[Elsie]

How great is our God, sing with me

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Bah!!

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Praise to the Man!

 

 

Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

 

 

Praise to his mem'ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assasins,
Plead unto heav'n while the earth lauds his fame.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

 

Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

 

Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know 'Brother Joseph' again.

 

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

[Elsie]

St. Bartholomew’s Day massacre

Is this something that the most Perfect and Restored church on earth should address?

[Elsie]

What facts, evidence or logical support can you use to demonstrate that this absolute claim of truth is true?

Once again; a Hateful BIGOT chooses to IGNORE that FACT that ANYONE can book a trip and actually VISIT MORMON archeology sites!!

--MormonDude(I am ASSURED that they are TRUE!!!)

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http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon403.html

[Elsie]

I will admit that it is a good thing that the church leadership and Utah territorial government at the time submitted to the idea of getting rid of polygamy and becoming part of the United States.

Submitted INDEED!

Rolled over like a DOG!

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Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriage...

I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws..."

~ Wilford Woodruff, 4th LDS President

 

[Elsie]

Why is that?”

Well...

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Acts 17:18-19
 18.  A group of Epicurean and Stoic philosophers began to dispute with him. Some of them asked, "What is this babbler trying to say?" Others remarked, "He seems to be advocating foreign gods." They said this because Paul was preaching the good news about Jesus and the resurrection.
 19.  Then they took him and brought him to a meeting of the Areopagus, where they said to him, "May we know what this new teaching is that you are presenting?

 

Acts 18:11
    So Paul stayed for a year and a half, teaching them the word of God.

 

 

 

 

 

Romans 15:4
 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

 

 

Romans 16:17
   I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

 

 

1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.

 

 

1 Corinthians 11:2
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.

 

 

Ephesians 4:14-15
 14.  Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
 15.  Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.

 

 

2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.

 

 

2 Thessalonians 3:6
  In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching  you received from us.

 

 

1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.

 

 

1 Timothy 1:7
  They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.

 

 

1 Timothy 2:7
   And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:1-2
 1.  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
 2.  Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:6
   If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:11
  Command and teach these things.

 

 

1 Timothy 6:3-5
 3.  If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
 4.  he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 
 5.  and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

 

 

2 Timothy 1:13
  What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.

 

 

 2 Timothy 2:15-17
 15.  Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
 16.  Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
 17.  Their teaching will spread like gangrene.

 

 

2 Timothy 3:16-17
 16.  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 17.  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

 

 

 2 Timothy 4:3-4
  3.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
  4.  They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

 

 

Titus 1:11
   They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.

 

 

Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.

 

 

Titus 2:15
  These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.

 

 

 Hebrews 13:9
 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.

 

 

 2 Peter 2:1-3
 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

 

 

2 John 1:10
  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.

[BlueMoose]

http://www.archive.org/stream/narrativeofgreat00benn#page/10/mode/2up

[BlueMoose]

http://www.archive.org/stream/narrativeofgreat00benn#page/10/mode/2up

[Elsie]

“I would much rather be marooned on a desert island with a group of Mormons than with your typical crowd of NY theater goers.”

Not me; for there will be hardly any chance of getting a solid group of MORMONs to admit their need of GOD.

That OTHER bunch, however...

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Luke 18:9-14

And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

[svcw]

THX 1138

[restornu]

Thank you for your courage

[gitmo]

My “prejudice” regarding mormonism is based on a mountain of learning, knowledge and understanding.

Uh, wouldn't that be "postjudice"?

[gitmo]

Even the discovery of DNA supports the wording of the bible.

Please elaborate.

[wintertime]

Please elaborate.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If you were trying to describe the difference between XX and XY to a very primitive people could you do better than God’s, “ A rib was taken from the side.” ?

Again how would you describe the substance of humankind to a very primitive people? Could you do better than “dust of the earth?”

[wintertime]

I stand in solidarity with my Mormon neighbors.
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I do too!

And.....I have been so put off by the viciousness of the anti-Mormonism nuts that the next time I see those wholesome looking bike riding missionaries in my neighborhood I am determined to invite them in for lunch!

I see Mormons producing plenty of good fruit. They absolutely can **NOT** possibly be as bad as these anti-Mormonism posters claim. It is time to find out about Mormons from the Mormons themselves!

[gitmo]

I’m not sure where you were aiming with that pea-shooter but you did spell everything correctly.

Well, except for the first word.