'Rathergate' expert doubts Obama's birth certificate

It would have been much better if he could have done that in English.

How do we get a grand jury called so it can prosecute this?

Godebert wrote:

I blame every single member of congress and every commissioned officer serving on or after Jan 20th, 2009. They all failed their sworn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

You can shift the focus however you want.

I don't want judges making up new laws, even if I agree with the laws those judges create. You can't elect a replacement federal judge, and once the law is written by the judge, it really can't be repealed easily (if at all). Yet, that seems to be the goal of the lawsuits surrounding the birth certificate and Obama's eligibility.

I also don't think that a mutiny or military coup on January 20, 2009 would have been a good outcome. That seems to be what you wish had happened.

Just look at all your neighbors if you want someone to blame.

About that oath to "protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." People have been breaking that oath for decades. In my state (Florida), you sign that oath when you register to vote:

From the Florida Voter Registration Application (PDF version):
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Florida, that I am qualified to register as an elector under the Constitution and laws of the State of Florida, and that all information provided in this application is true.

That's right next to the space where you have to sign the form.

I'm sure other states have a similar oath for voters. Even if there isn't an explicit oath shown on the form, ultimately, it's the job of the citizens of this country to protect ourselves and to protect our Republic and the Constitution it's based on. have failed to do that. Obama is a symptom of that failure.

If are unwilling to protect the Constitution, why would anyone else do it for us?

If even a fraction of active duty field-grade officers resigned their commissions over Obama’s eligibility, it would have forced the issue on the cowardly traitorous congress.

Currently there is no U.S. military. Just an armed force serving under a usurper.

As far as I can tell, you have to be on one?

I’m sure there is some way to create one, but I have come across it yet.

Still searching though.

I found this site late last night, but I haven’t had time to research it yet. It seems to have a lot of useful info so I bookmarked it.

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=WorldCh08

exerpt;

Criminal Syndicalism

Although the World Order has control of the legal system and the courts, it remains vulnerable to any enforcement of the pre-existing body of law which the host had formulated to protect his society. This body of law forbids everything that the parasite is doing, and forces the parasite to maintain a precarious existence outside of the law. If the law were to be enforced at any time, the parasite would be dislodged. The existing body of law clearly forbids the operation of criminal syndicates, which is precisely what the hegemony of parasitism and its World Order is. Criminal syndicalism denies the equal protection of the law to citizens; only by acting against criminal syndicalism can the state protect its citizens.
Corpus Juris Secundum 16: Constitutional Law 213 (10) states:
“The Constitutional guaranty of freedom of speech does not include the right to advocate, or conspire to effect, the violent destruction or overthrow of the government or the criminal destruction of property. 214: The Constitutional guaranty of the right of assembly was never intended as a license for illegality or invitation for fraud — the right of freedom of assembly may be abused by using assembly to incite violence and crime, and the people through their legislatures may protect themselves against the abuse.”

Amen, Brother. You got that right. God Bless.

How do we get a grand jury called so it can prosecute this?

Locate a prosecuting attorney who is interested in looking at the evidence. If a prosecutor feels that the evidence is credible they convene a grand jury to look toward indictments.
The Clinton impeachment began as a local Little Rock, Arkansas investigation into the billing records of the Rose Law Firm that employed Hillary Rodham Clinton.

So if a prosecutor in Nebraska, for instance, was willing to look at the evidence that Nancy Pelosi perjured herself when she swore that Obama was eligible on the Certification of Nomination that allowed Obama’s name to be put on the Nebraska ballot, he/she could call a grand jury and start issuing subpoenas?

Who all can be a prosecuting attorney? Could my county attorney be a prosecuting attorney in such a case, since the Nebraska ballots were used in this county?

Here is a different analysis concerning the signature stamp and date stamp and their positions on two separate documents that shows that the longform was constructed:

Longform Fake

So when do we hear fromDonald Trump again?

sorry for the double post

So if a prosecutor in Nebraska, for instance, was willing to look at the evidence that Nancy Pelosi perjured herself when she swore that Obama was eligible on the Certification of Nomination that allowed Obama’s name to be put on the Nebraska ballot, he/she could call a grand jury and start issuing subpoenas?

Who all can be a prosecuting attorney? Could my county attorney be a prosecuting attorney in such a case, since the Nebraska ballots were used in this county?

Your county attorney is a prosecuting attorney. That’s what the job description is for any county attorney, city attorney, district attorney, state Attorney General or US Attorney.

The Grand Jury in the United States
Origins and Practice

The grand jury system, an institution of English-speaking countries, was established in the US by the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. It is a codified practice of Anglo-Saxon or Norman common law. “The grand jury is supposed to function as a body of neighbors who aid the state in bringing criminals to justice while protecting the innocent from unjust accusation,” according to Consumer Law.

All but two states and the District of Columbia use grand juries to indict, according to the University of Dayton law school; Connecticut and Pennsylvania have retained the investigating grand jury. A subset of these states, 23, require that grand jury indictments be used for specific crimes; Texas is in this subset.

What is a Grand Jury
A grand jury is a group of citizens, usually chosen from the same pool as trial jurors, that is sworn in by a court to hear a case. The grand jury is composed of not less than 12 and not more than 23 persons; and in the Federal courts, the number shall not be less than 16 nor more than 23.

Grand juries differ from trial juries (which consist of 12 jurors) in other significant ways: • Unlike trial juries, grand juries can indict with only a majority (not unanimous) vote.
• Trial juries decide whether a defendent is guilty or not guilty of a crime. A grand jury listens to evidence and decides if someone should be charged with a crime. Thus the grand jury determines probable cause, not “guilt” or “innocence”. According to the American Bar Association: Since the role of the grand jury is only to determine probable cause, there is no need for the jury to hear all the evidence, or even conflicting evidence. It is left to the good faith of the prosecutor to present conflicting evidence.
• Unlike trial juries, grand juries do not usually convene daily. Many federal grand juries sit only once a week or twice a month.
The Subpoena
Grand juries can use the power of the court to subpoena (command) evidence although they can also invite (not command) witnesses to testify.

Should you receive a subpoena but think you should not have to testify, or you think what the subpoena asks is “unreasonable or oppressive,” you can file a motion to quash the subpeona. If you simply refuse to do what the subpoena asks, you can be held in civil (not criminal) contempt. If you are held in civil contempt, you will be jailed until you agree to comply with the subpoena or until the grand jury’s term ends, whichever comes first.

Witness Right to Counsel
In a jury trial, defendents have a right to counsel; the lawyer sits alongside the defendent in the courtroom. In a grand jury investigation: In the federal system, a witness cannot have his or her lawyer present in the grand jury room, although witnesses may interrupt their testimony and leave the grand jury room to consult with their lawyer. A few states do allow a lawyer to accompany the witness; some allow the lawyer to advise his or her client, others merely allow the lawyer to observe the proceeding.

Secrecy
Grand jury investigations are shrouded in secrecy; violating that secrecy is considered criminal contempt and can also be considered obstructing justice. Those who are bound to secrecy include everyone but the witnesses: prosecutors, grand jurors, court reporters, and clerical personnel. Identities of grand jurors are kept secret.

In 1946, Supreme Court created created the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, which simplified common law and codified grand jury secrecy in Rule 6, subsections (d) and (e). The first provision limited who could be present in grand jury sessions; the second imposed a general rule of secrecy.

Grand jury proceedings are secret because: • Anyone being investigated cannot interfer with witnesses or otherwise tamper with the investigation.
• Secrecy decreases the likelihood someone who is about to be indicted will escape before indictment.
• Reluctant witnesses can speak more freely when their remarks will not be made public nor reach the target of an investigation.
• Secrecy protects anyone who might be implicated, but who is not indicted.
Witnesses are not sworn to secrecy in Federal grand juries, which allows witnesses to refute rumors surrounding their appearance or testimony before a grand jury.

Length of the Grand Jury
A “regular” federal grand jury has a basic term of 18 months; a court can extend this term for another 6 months, bringing the total possible term to 24 months. A “special” federal grand juriy can be extend another 18 months, bringing the total possible term to 36 months. State grand jury terms vary widely, but from a month to 18 months, with a year being average.

Oath of the Foreman
The oath of the foreman is generally like this, reflecting its roots in history: “You, as foreman of this inquest, for the body of the County of ____ , do swear, (or affirm) that you will diligently inquire, and true presentment make, of such articles, matters, and things as shall be given you in charge or otherwise come to your knowledge, touching the present service; the commonwealth’s counsel, your fellows’ and your own you shall keep secret; you shall present no one for envy, hatred or malice; neither shall you leave any one unpresented for fear, favor or affection, hope of reward or gain, but shall present all things truly as they come to your knowledge, according to the best of your understanding (so help you God.)” Returning An Indictment
After the prosecutor presents evidence, jurors vote on the proposed charges (the indictment), which were drafted by the prosecutor. If a majority of the jury believes the evidence shows probable cause of a crime, the jury “returns” the indictment. This act initiates criminal proceedings.

If a majority of the jury does not believe the evidence shows probable cause of a crime, that “no” vote is called “returning a bill of ignoramus” or “returning a no bill.” No criminal proceedings follow this vote.

However, this does not necessarily mean the end to an investigation. A person who is suspected of having committed a crime is not protected by the constitutional prohibition of “double jeopardy” in this instance, because the person has not yet been “put in jeopardy” (made to stand trial).

Very interesting. Thank you.

I wonder if a county attorney would be considered to have jurisdiction in the case I suggested.

Having communicated with my county sheriff, I suspect the big snag that would be used as a reason for a prosecutor to not call a grand jury would be lack of funding; if they prosecuted Nancy Pelosi (for instance) she would have tons of money for lawyers, and my county doesn’t have that kind of money to put toward the effort.

I wonder if the county could accept donations for the prosecution of such a case.

The state AG has ambitions of being a Senator so he won’t do anything politically risky. That’s the trouble with the law enforcement system being so entwined with politics. It wouldn’t be so bad if we had a decent media but with a lying media a person who does what is right has a target on their back forever after.

'Rathergate' expert doubts Obama's birth certificate

WHO DOESN'T?

The Hawaii Department of Health. "On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth." -- http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

Geeks have a hard time speaking other languages.