Posted on 06/17/2011 7:52:19 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — For the first time in its 96-year history, a female general is taking charge at the famed Marine Corps training depot at South Carolina's Parris Island.
Brig. Gen. Loretta Reynolds, who is also known as the first female Marine to ever hold a command position in a battle zone, takes charge Friday at the installation south of Beaufort.
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But their sex DID matter in their recruitment and all along the line in the standards lowered for them to be placed and “succeed” and advance ahead of better qualified males "Competence" is nice but it used to be the absolute bottom line. Now it's a great reference. The feminization of the force and our culture is finshed.
1st MAW BumP! Okinawa!! The Rock!
Women these days can do almost anything a man can, and in many cases, do it better than a man. (ducks)
Summer of ‘72 MCRD San Diego ‘Graduate’
Chesty is rolling over in his grave!
Parallel with Rome?
I sure feel better now that she is in charge don’t you? Isn’t it just wonderful?
Makes me retch.””
It is called suicide by political correctness, that disease fostered by the left. I was really more concerned about the homosexualization.
“Though what mattered to me was the rank on their hat or collar, not their sex.”
Is this a quote from the movie “No Time For Sergeants?”
She looks like Sad Sack’s girlfriend Sadie.
You have to be over 55 to know what I mean.
No, I thought that all by myself!
You should be a hollywood writer. That line was in No Time for Sergeants starring Andy Griffith circa 1959?
No kidding! Never saw that movie. Well I am wrting a book. Maybe I just slipped into the same cadences.
It bothered me to see a women in uniform and know that she was unqualified to wear it.
Females have a fake parallel standard created to artificiality put them in the uniform and to keep them in it, they don’t pass the real standards.
Well, from what I remember about the physical standards, only the pushups were reduced for women, since they have less upper body strength than men. And even with that standard, there were a number of women who exceeded the women’s standard to match the men’s. The sit-ups were just about equivalent. At the time, I had to do 52 in two minutes and the women, 50. And the times for the two-mile run, weren’t all that far off either, maybe by a minute or slightly more or less.
I’m on the scrawny side and served in the Army so although I passed the standards, there were women in my unit who were certainly stronger and more physically capable than I was.
Aside from the physical part, though, in regard to the actual tasks we needed to do, I didn’t see any difference at all. They worked just as hard doing the same tasks and just as well. I was proud to serve with them.
You just admitted that the females have female standards, not the real standards, then you describe those mythical women that i always hear about but have never met.
I will tell you something about your "scrawny" male body, I can turn it into something that is superior than almost all females on earth, it has built in capabilities and reserves of strength.
Women can't do the job on their best, most healthy day, give them a year of malaria and canned peaches and Marlboros and they really can't pick up their 100 pound packs.
Of course I admitted that the females had female standards. The guys in their 40’s and 50’s also had different standards than I did. I wouldn’t expect a 50 year old man to run two miles in 14:42 like they did when they were 18. Although, some could and that’s my point. Don’t know what kind of unit you were in. I served in a medical unit, like on MASH, and while there were physical needs to do some jobs, most did not require physical strength. Though everybody had to be physically fit. That’s my experience and all I can go on.
I agree with you that men overall are physically superior and you’re right that I could last in a wartime environment where most women counldn’t. I wouldn’t reccomend women serving in real combat roles. I was mainly addressing your point about women not deserving to wear their uniforms. I didn’t find that to be the case at all.
Yet you are young enough, and conditioned enough, to continue to argue what you know deep in your heart, is the reality of life.
The funniest thing I ever saw in the military was watching females trying to set up one of those large, canvas, 35(or whatever) man tents.
When I was 17 I blew away the Marine Corp 350 point PT test, with a large margin leftover above the perfect score, 4 years later after rough, unhealthy living, I scored a 493 on the Army’s more difficult, 500 point test.
The heavy smoking and lack of exercise causing that 7 point loss on the fully uniformed, combat boots, 2 mile run would have been overcome if only I had had another week or so to work out the kinks.
Well, they probably didn’t know what they were doing. Pitching and striking tents was a staple in my unit. We set up GP Medium and GP Large tents by the dozens every summer and the women had no problems doing it with men or by themselves.
That’s odd, that you and I witnessed the same thing so differently.
The women we watched were part of a field MI unit that we worked for, and the tent was their own field tent.
We old timers that had mostly never seen women in the field, watched in fascination as their lack of upper body strength frustrated their efforts, we were laughing at the hilarious scene, and eventually men drifted over to assist them.
My guess is that what you saw in a mixed unit, is the natural, (almost) unconscious division of labor that takes place when males and females are mixed in work, you see it even in restaurants and civilian jobs, when a particularly heavy load comes in and the male employees naturally drift out to handle it while the females do something else. In total war that doesn’t work, the built in weaknesses of your armies, will be exposed, and capitalized on.
Big armies are going to be dropping Paratroops and special forces on our rear guard military, suddenly the ability to grab a 50 and take it somewhere, and quickly build improvised fortifications and carry out wounded and change a truck tire, will become important, unfortunately a large portion of our divided labor will be dead and every ounce of man power suddenly, desperately, important, that will be a bad time to learn about the importance of muscles in warfare.
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