Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Another CINO-RINO. Watch video at the link. I don't know why Ann Coulter likes him so much. And of course the Church never taught that being affected by homosexual tendencies is a sin per se. Homosexuality is a disordered tendency, and those affected by it need the love and the support of the community, and specialized help when necessary, to overcome it. Acting on the tendency, however, is indeed sinful, and can never be condoned. By the same token, theft is not justified if one is affected by kleptomania, even though the pathology itself cannot be blamed on the person affected by it. It seems that there is a genetic component to alcoholism. We seek to help alcoholics, but we don't OK drenkenness. Is it that impenetrable to the CINO mind?

OTOH, it is entirely possible that Christie simply ignores these basic distinctions given the disastrous conditions of Catholic education and formation in most dioceses of the last few decades. He should still be able to think logically though.

1 posted on 06/15/2011 11:50:49 PM PDT by fabrizio
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last
To: fabrizio

I think Ann Coulter falls a bit into the Hugh Hewitt trap where they focus on winning to the point of abandoning principles (and principled people).

The idea that a more squishy centrist is necessarily more electable is sadly pervasive


2 posted on 06/16/2011 12:01:26 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio

Why not let gays marry? Cities should charge them 10X the amount for hetero marriage license and that way cities can get out of the financial mess they are in!


3 posted on 06/16/2011 12:01:59 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (There's a revolution "brewing".....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio

I lived in New Jersey for a year. In the old days the place was known as a toxic waste dump. Then it went down hill to a Leftist waste dump.


4 posted on 06/16/2011 12:03:49 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio
“Well my religion says it’s a sin. I mean I think - but for me? I don’t - I’ve always believed that people are born with the predisposition to be homosexual, and so I think if someone is born that way, it’s very difficult to say then that that’s a sin,” said Christie. “But I understand that my Church says that, but for me personally, I don’t look upon someone who’s homosexual as a sinner.”

Well Governor who are you to second guess God?

Pederasts are probably born that way too. Does that mean that raping a child is not a sin if you can talk the child in to consenting to doing it willingly?

Sorry but all of us are subject to the temptations of sin. We must all fight against those temptations.

If the gay activist can not accept the teachings of the Church they are well come to worship elsewhere that is one of the great freedoms we have in this country. I will not surrender that right to the gay agenda. We will not bow to the false god of political correctness.

7 posted on 06/16/2011 12:20:08 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio

“I’ve always believed that people are born with the predisposition to be homosexual”

Yeah, and my kids believed in Santa Claus when they were very young.

Grow up and grow a pair.


9 posted on 06/16/2011 12:27:30 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio

fabrizio: “He (Christie) should still be able to think logically though.”

Perhaps he thinks it’s logical to oppose the church and say homosexuality is OK in order to be elected?


11 posted on 06/16/2011 12:41:46 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Coming soon...DADT for Christians!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio

Homosexuals COULD have been ‘born that way’. I think it’s a mental illness.


12 posted on 06/16/2011 12:51:58 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio

It’s either a mental illness, or a result of a possession by a demon of the opposite sex, which I suppose could also be seen as a type of mental illness.


15 posted on 06/16/2011 12:58:48 AM PDT by truthfreedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio

-Acting on the tendency, however, is indeed sinful, and can never be condoned.”

That’s right. It’s wrong to give in to sinful temptations.

If a heterosexual is tempted to cheat on their spouse, they too, would have to resist that temptation.


16 posted on 06/16/2011 1:03:26 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio
Thanks for posting this. I'm not a Chris Christie expert, but I had heard that he was pro homo, anti gun, and pro abortion.

What the hell are we doing crying out every five minutes to draft this guy. We already have Romney for this crap. Taking on the union is admirable, but that's not the only issue.

17 posted on 06/16/2011 1:07:37 AM PDT by chuckles
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio

Perfectly said. There is a genetic component to a tendency to adultery also. Likewise to anger that leads to hate that leads to murderous thoughts. That doesn’t remove the sinful nature of the act of committing adultery or of murder (whether in the heart or in the world).

Saying “to me, this activity is not a sin,” is itself the worst kind of sin in that the speaker sets themselves up as equal to God in declaring that their moral “truth” is of more worth than God’s. That in itself, as Ray Comfort is fond of saying, is a violation of both the first and second commandments.

Finally, there is still no evidence for the “born that way” argument. I’m tired of listening to people pontificate on this as if it were fact just because they wish it were so.


18 posted on 06/16/2011 1:25:34 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio

He’s permanently disqualified himself. Period. No waffling on this by saying his personal belief is one he won’t allow to affect his potential for a job. No matter what good qualities he has, this is a complete, utter show-stopper. Governor Christie’s succumbing to the politically correct spew here tells me that he is perhaps more fit to listen to Lady Gaga than to seriously contend for a larger role in his country.


21 posted on 06/16/2011 2:36:38 AM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio
GODless... maybe he is a NJ conservative... but he is a kennedy to us in Mississippi.

LLS

25 posted on 06/16/2011 4:43:46 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES... a Conservative subsidiary of Reagan's party)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio

Someone should ask him if RINOs are “born that way,” or made that way by some kind of mental trauma.


26 posted on 06/16/2011 4:48:52 AM PDT by hellbender
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio

If he defies and rejects the Catholic Church’s teachings, in what way is it still “his” church? The RCC is not a country club; it’s an organization which speaks with authority on issues of doctrine.


27 posted on 06/16/2011 4:51:00 AM PDT by hellbender
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio

Christie’s voiced opinion, that “born that way” = “not sinful” is, of course, absurd.

Sociopaths and alcoholics are “born that way”, but prisons and hospitals are full of them, nonetheless.

However, it is true that the vast majority of Americans believe it too, including, apparently, a majority of Catholics. Clarity on homosexual issues is, in our day, poison for an electoral politician.


28 posted on 06/16/2011 4:53:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio
"he believes homosexuals are “born that way” and therefore it is “very difficult” to call homosexuality sinful."

Wow, does this guy have a clue about Biblical Christianity? We are ALL "born that way" with a sinful nature. It's called original sin. There are "none good..not one". This is why we need a Savior. Yet we all have a choice as to whether we act on our innate sinful desires. For some the strongest temptation may be homosexual sex, for some drunkeness or pedophilia or fornication (a biblical term which includes homosexual behavior by the way). It's a shame so many who call themselves Christian have no idea what the Bible teaches.

31 posted on 06/16/2011 4:59:57 AM PDT by circlecity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio

I don’t like Ann Coulter...

Her choice in men is pretty deficient.

The last thing I want is someone thinking they can tell me how to vote because of their cult of personality.


33 posted on 06/16/2011 5:03:55 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio
I’ve always believed that people are born with the predisposition to be homosexual, and so I think if someone is born that way, it’s very difficult to say then that that’s a sin,”

To many "born again-ers", this must rattle their sensibilities. How then, does "I'm not runnin'" Christie handle "original sin"????

OOOOooooo.....thorny to be sure!

Moreover, one simply cannot believe that "I'm not runnin'" Christie had not - a long time ago - prepared a sound and reasonable answer to just such a question.

39 posted on 06/16/2011 5:14:02 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be ERADICATED....NOW!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: fabrizio

We are born sinners so I don’t see it as a contradiction.


40 posted on 06/16/2011 5:26:31 AM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson