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LENR: Is It Real Or Fake?
EV World ^ | June 15, 2011 | Alan Fletcher

Posted on 06/15/2011 10:47:24 PM PDT by Kevmo

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1 posted on 06/15/2011 10:47:27 PM PDT by Kevmo
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2 posted on 06/15/2011 10:48:04 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real
LENR.QUMBO.com ^ | April 6, 2011 | Alan Fletcher
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 7:52:15 PM by Kevmo
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3 posted on 06/15/2011 10:49:10 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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LOL. All this talk about eliminating fakes and I scroll down and there’s a picture of Romney.


4 posted on 06/15/2011 11:02:34 PM PDT by DeltaZulu
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Thanks for posting this, Kev. The E-Cat is one of the few breakthroughs in alternative energy that shows real promise.

The articles I see posted here seem to be taking on a more and more positive tone. I think that’s a very good indicator.


5 posted on 06/15/2011 11:19:20 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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Although I personally believe strongly that LENR tech is our current best hope of ever being able to break free from oil and gas, I have my doubts about this particular device.

There are some pretty respectable labs still working on LENR and they still haven't figured out the anomalies. The know the reaction is real, but it's still somewhat rare and they don't exactly know why.

Hopefully, I am wrong because if this is real, it has to potential of destroying the Arabs and freeing economies across the globe... it's that big of a deal.

6 posted on 06/15/2011 11:23:30 PM PDT by FunkyZero ("It's not about duck hunting !")
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"Although I personally believe strongly that LENR tech is our current best hope of ever being able to break free from oil and gas, I have my doubts about this particular device. There are some pretty respectable labs still working on LENR and they still haven't figured out the anomalies. The know the reaction is real, but it's still somewhat rare and they don't exactly know why."

Well, it won't be the first time in technology where a complete outsider jumps in and makes a completely revolutionary discovery or has a completely revolutionary insight. A couple of quick examples....amorphous silicon semiconductors (thought to be impossible....now commonplace), and the recent discovery of a way to make steel more than 7% stronger, yet still ductile (steelmaking was considered a "mature technology", with very few secrets still to come....yet "there you are").

LOTS of "very respectable labs" had worked for many years, nay decades even, and in the case of steel....centuries....,yet these insights eluded them. It took an outsider to recognize...."hey, there are TREES in that forest".

I'm cautiously optimistic about the E-Cat. Still waiting for October/November though.

7 posted on 06/16/2011 4:13:51 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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Remember that big to-do, maybe 25 years ago, about some guy out in the boonies who had discovered that carbon dioxide could be used to make super-tough concrete? He cured the concrete, under pressure, submerged in liquid CO2, and the results were said to be amazing.

He was all over the news for a week or so, and then... nothing.

I was working at a US Government facility last year; while I was there they built a big new addition with all the latest blast-proof construction features. I didn’t see a single CO2 tank, or tanker truck, or pressure-curing vessel.

Sometimes these flash-in-the-pan technologies look great during the “hype” phase, but don’t work out for a variety of reasons. Doesn’t have to be fraud involved, either.

That said, I think that some sort of LENR or cold fusion phenomonenon will be developed eventually.


8 posted on 06/16/2011 5:28:17 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Kevmo

If this device is real and performs as expected, it won’t take the EPA very long to write regulations that will effectively ban its use.


9 posted on 06/16/2011 5:29:39 AM PDT by upchuck (Think you know hardship? Ha! Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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One thing that has impressed me has been the reliability of the E-cats in the demonstrations. There has been no tinkering, no “Hold on, we’ll have it working in another hour” kind of stuff. That’s surprising given the prototype stage of development even if it was ‘old-school’ technology. So if it is not a fraud, it appears to be decently reliable (and would only get more so as it is commercialized).


10 posted on 06/16/2011 5:36:20 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (For by grace are you saved through faith.)
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"Sometimes these flash-in-the-pan technologies look great during the “hype” phase, but don’t work out for a variety of reasons.Doesn’t have to be fraud involved, either"

. So very true. Sometimes technically novel approaches simply aren't economically feasible, or run into problems in mass production.

And in fact, Rossi had run into the same problem with a previous innovation. He had developed a highly efficient approach to direct generation of electricity from heat. His lab prototypes were independently tested, and worked exactly as claimed. But attempts to scale up to mass production were unsuccessful. A lot of folks are using this technical failure to paint Rossi as "a scammer", when, in fact, the tech worked, but production capabilities were inadquate to the task.

11 posted on 06/16/2011 5:44:11 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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I worked in Silicon Valley for many years at companies that had R&D labs. For every great final product there was 10-15 ideas dumped in the trash can. To complex, to costly, to marginal etc. That said I believe Rossi is on to something and am waiting for the 1meg unit.
12 posted on 06/16/2011 5:48:35 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Demons run when a good man goes to war.)
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Here’s a link to an article claiming replication of Rossi’s experiment but the comments are far more informative than the article.

http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/06/brian-ahern-getting-8-watts-in-low.html


13 posted on 06/16/2011 5:49:58 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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Its heart is a “fist-sized” reactor chamber, containing Nickel and a secret ingredient, which is loaded with Hydrogen.

.........AND TODAY'S SECRET INGREDIENT IS........................UNOBTANIUM!!!!!!!...........................

14 posted on 06/16/2011 5:51:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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Well, it won't be the first time in technology where a complete outsider jumps in and makes a completely revolutionary discovery or has a completely revolutionary insight.

Firefly battery technology...........

15 posted on 06/16/2011 5:54:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: mad_as_he$$
"I worked in Silicon Valley for many years at companies that had R&D labs. For every great final product there was 10-15 ideas dumped in the trash can. To complex, to costly, to marginal etc."

LOL......"Sturgeon's Law"

Your percentage is right on target.

16 posted on 06/16/2011 6:36:29 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Red Badger
".........AND TODAY'S SECRET INGREDIENT IS........................UNOBTANIUM!!!!!!!..........................."

Try Sarah Palin's tanning bed....... ;^)

17 posted on 06/16/2011 6:39:26 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: saganite

Good find, there. Hadn’t seen that one yet.


18 posted on 06/16/2011 7:40:19 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Kevmo

Must be hidden in a black box? Well, I would trust that. When I was in New York City, this guy on the sidewalk had a black box that would turn dollar bills into $20 bills. I bought it for only $1000.


19 posted on 06/16/2011 8:22:33 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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“”There are some pretty respectable labs still working on LENR and they still haven’t figured out the anomalies. The know the reaction is real, but it’s still somewhat rare and they don’t exactly know why.””

Perhaps they need Rossi’s secret reagent to obtain a reliable and predictable reaction.


20 posted on 06/16/2011 4:42:22 PM PDT by citizen (Romney+Bachmann I was thinking that during the CNN debate. Economic guy+Values gal. I like it a lot!)
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