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Judges sharply challenge healthcare law
LA Times ^ | June 8, 2011 | David G. Savage

Posted on 06/08/2011 11:16:34 AM PDT by Mount Athos

A top Obama administration lawyer defending last year's healthcare law ran into skeptical questions Wednesday from three federal judges here, who suggested they may be ready to declare all or part of the law unconstitutional.

And in an ominous sign for the administration, the judges opened the arguments by saying they knew of no case in American history where the courts had upheld the government's power to force someone to buy a product.

"I can't find any case like this," said Chief Judge Joel Dubina of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. "If we uphold this, are there any limits" on the power of the federal government? he asked.

Judge Stanley Marcus appeared to agree. "I can't find any case" in the past where the courts upheld "telling a private person they are compelled to purchase a product in the open market…. Is there anything that suggests Congress can do this?"

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To: Lurker

Frankly, I really like brocolli but it just won’t taste the same once I am compelled by law to place it in my cart every week at the grocer. Especially if I am no longer allowed to buy it from the farmer down the country road where I live!


61 posted on 06/09/2011 9:32:19 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: blackdog

He said “the bill and I are one”. If he goes down, so does the bill?!!


62 posted on 06/09/2011 9:36:07 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Mount Athos
This is great, but it is ultimately all about Justice Kennedy and where he stands on all of this when it gets to SCOTUS.

However, if this Appellate Court feels strongly enough to both rule against the law AND issue an injunction against implementation; then we have something tangible.

63 posted on 06/09/2011 9:47:38 AM PDT by dan on the right
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To: imjimbo
This should be the lead story on every network- but it’ll only be on one- the one Americans actually watch-!!!

I didn't know Glenn Beck TV has gone live yet.

64 posted on 06/09/2011 9:48:07 AM PDT by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2011-2012.)
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To: Mount Athos

Its articles like this in breaking news that makes FR obsolete.

Where is the real news. Where is the latest on Weiner’s underwear? Where is the update on Paul Revere?

Can’t we get some real news?


65 posted on 06/09/2011 9:53:44 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Mount Athos

Why aren’t the judge’s opinions front line news? This is a remarkable circumstance of the courts determining the consequences of this law that infringes upon the rights of Americans. We are staring at pure socialism.


66 posted on 06/09/2011 10:05:55 AM PDT by Son-Joshua (son-joshua)
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To: bandleader

Marvin Gay, is that you?


67 posted on 06/09/2011 10:25:25 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Gator113

Work around it, or THROUGH it. So far, the administration just ignores court rulings and judges that don’t suit them. Even if SCOTUS rules against, how will SCOTUS enforce their own ruling? Will Roberts go visit Holder with a gun in hand? Injustice department answers to only one person, and it won’t be Roberts or SCOTUS.


68 posted on 06/09/2011 10:26:59 AM PDT by CPO retired
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To: Mount Athos

Bring it! NOW! We are held hostage by our moronic fake president and his Marxist minions!


69 posted on 06/09/2011 10:34:44 AM PDT by luvie (RUN SARAH...R U N!)
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To: blackdog; NautiNurse; Nick Danger; Interesting Times; LS; GailA; Nachum; JesseWatters; holdonnow; ..
We need that youtube video of Weiners town hall meeting claiming that "I wrote the healthcare bill, I am the healthcare bill, and I'm part of everything in it"

Play it over, and over, and over, 24/7

Good call, blackdog! Anyone know where this video is?

70 posted on 06/09/2011 10:39:18 AM PDT by nutmeg
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To: philman_36

That should be an ad. One more reason for his exit from office!


71 posted on 06/09/2011 10:41:03 AM PDT by luvie (RUN SARAH...R U N!)
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To: blackdog

You mean the Weiner - the liar to the public and to his friends, to cover his porno secrets and lack of judgment, the ‘no integrity deceiver’ famed Weiner - this is his bill? He has his ‘wants’, his ‘ideas’, his ‘judgment’ - in this bill for America?

If so, it should shredded. He does not represent America.


72 posted on 06/09/2011 10:44:28 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( The Palin Party: The Party of Patriots.)
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To: nutmeg

See post 37 :)


73 posted on 06/09/2011 10:45:19 AM PDT by luvie (RUN SARAH...R U N!)
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To: Scoutmaster

Please post a report after you talk with your son!


74 posted on 06/09/2011 10:52:56 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ("And I'm actually happy to be, for us to be the moat with alligators party." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: Mount Athos
Time to call the hearse?

I hope so.

75 posted on 06/09/2011 11:36:28 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: EODGUY

It would also take away a great campaign issue for us in 2012... it might not be a bad thing for this to drag out till just after the election.


76 posted on 06/09/2011 11:37:31 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Persevero
The denial of this monstrosity can’t happen soon enough.

Don't count your chickens before the eggs hatch.

77 posted on 06/09/2011 11:40:01 AM PDT by itsahoot (We make jokes, they make progress. Progressivism, Support Palin, or get used to it.)
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To: newfreep
LOL! The bros in my unit would've thrown their seabags at you.

Marvin's big tune was "What's Goin' On".
78 posted on 06/09/2011 11:40:01 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Mount Athos
This is encouraging, but there's one thing everyone needs to remember: in the end, this will be decided by de facto Chief Justice Anthony Kennedy.
79 posted on 06/09/2011 11:47:13 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Thrownatbirth

Glad you caught my humor!

I was referring to MG’s “Let’s Get It On” during “sexual period” of songs.

Yep, “What’s Going On?” was a GREAT song - the remastered Japanese CD sounds amazing, too!


80 posted on 06/09/2011 12:12:09 PM PDT by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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