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Sure Obama’s ineligible, but it’s only the Constitution that says so
coachisright.com ^ | June 3, 2011 | Doug Book, staff writer

Posted on 06/03/2011 8:17:52 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

On April 30th of 2008, the United States Senate proclaimed John McCain eligible to become the President of the United States, passing by unanimous consent Senate Resolution 511 which stated that his birth in the Panama Canal Zone did not violate the “natural born citizen” clause of the Constitution.

One of the co-sponsors of this non-binding resolution was Barack Hussein Obama.

Though the Constitution does not define “natural born”, it is clear that the meaning had been based upon principles included in a work quite popular with many of the Founders, the 1758 “Law of Nations” by Frenchman Emerich de Vattel.

According to the “Law of Nations”, “the natives, or natural born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens…”

So because of his birth in a Panama hospital, embarrassing questions were being raised about McCain’s Constitutional eligibility to serve.

Nevertheless, rather than adhere to the text and spirit of the Constitution and engage in honest debate, members of the imperial senate rushed to put the issue to rest by ignoring the language of the document to which they had sworn a solemn oath of allegiance.

And the true motive for this betrayal of trust is more disgraceful than the betrayal itself. For it was quietly hoped this cynical, bipartisan resolution proclaiming McCain’s eligibility might insure no question would arise about another candidate, one who was clearly and irretrievably ineligible for the highest office in the land.

In 1800, Charles Pinckney, member of the Continental Congress; signatory to the Constitution wrote, “what better way to insure attachment to the Country than to require the President to have his American citizenship through his father and not through a foreign father.”

Regardless of Barack Obama’s birthplace, his father was a British citizen,…..

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To: Captain Kirk

and btw, i’m not saying this, because i have a naive hope of removing President Obama this way. I DON’T.

in fact, i’m postive he will never be removed for not being a NBC. for sake of argument,

i assume President Obama -IS- a NBC !!!

US State Department records, show his Father was a bigamist, so if the marriage occurred (of which there is NO evidence), it was invalid.
and his Mother was underage. And Obama himself could claim that the birth Father was different. i agree, it is quite possible, that he IS a NBC !!!

So, if this came before the Supreme Court, i think that is exactly what would happen.
(remember Obama’s OWN lawyer stated the records were secret because it would be “embarrassing”. What might that be?)

So, Obama would just have to admit, his Father was Davis, or claim his Mother was raped, and BINGO, he -IS- a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
which is why i don’t usually comment on NBC threads. it’s pointless, in relation to Obama.

i am much more interested, in the CT SSN,
and why the errors on the BC like Obama Sr’s age (incorrect for 1961), and why Hawaii DOH says Virginia Sunahara doesn’t exist, when it has her in it’s birth index, etc.

i ONLY argue the definition of NBC, because i think the meaning of NBC in the Constitution is clear, and again,

even Liberals agreed with Vattel on the definition of NBC,

until Obama became President. ...as Liberal Lawyer HERLIHY said:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2302751/posts


41 posted on 06/03/2011 12:35:59 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Kleon

Oh, debuncked by Glenn Keesler, the Washington Compost Fact Checker who is supposedly the only guy that was shown a copy of McCain’s Birth Certificate. He has also quoted the much maligned Anthony Weiner saying “that repeal of the Obama health care bill will cost the Treasury $1.2 Trillion.”


42 posted on 06/03/2011 12:49:51 PM PDT by fastkelly
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To: buccaneer81

Personal? Nice diversionary tactic. You’re the guy that’s refusing to provide evidence that anyone cared about Arthur’s citizenship status. As long as you fail to address this, you’re not to convince anyone outside of your small fringe group.

Since you asked, I think all of this is incredibly silly. I’d take a Chester Arthur, who was a free market/small government guy/pro-gold standard guy, any day of the week over TR, FDR, or Woodrow Wilson (all of whom had citizen parents). Wouldn’t you?


43 posted on 06/03/2011 12:54:05 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: JoeA
The birth certificate clearly says Colon hospital, August 29, 1936. Here's the link at Scribd.com:

That's a forgery, and not a very good one. McCain has never released his birth certificate.

44 posted on 06/03/2011 1:17:21 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon

Better forgery than the Whitehouse posted on the internet on April 27th.


45 posted on 06/03/2011 1:40:49 PM PDT by fastkelly
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To: fastkelly
Better forgery than the Whitehouse posted on the internet on April 27th.

It's pretty easy to prove it's fake, though. You don't need to make up stuff about scanning software or embarrass yourself by pointing out smiley faces.

46 posted on 06/03/2011 2:02:08 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: allmendream
The translation was done in the same century as the constitution was written. I find that more reliable than the whining of members of the political class that are not elibible for POTUS.

Vattel:
§ 217. Children born in the armies of the state.
For the same reasons also, children born out of the country, in the armies of the state, or in the house of its minister at a foreign court, are reputed born in the country; for a citizen who is absent with his family, on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory.

If Vattel is accepted as the source of the Natural born citizen requirement, one might argue that Macain is a NBC.

47 posted on 06/03/2011 4:40:26 PM PDT by Exmil_UK
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To: rxsid; patlin

Have you seen this quote?

In 1800, Charles Pinckney, member of the Continental Congress; signatory to the Constitution wrote, “what better way to insure attachment to the Country than to require the President to have his American citizenship through his father and not through a foreign father.”


48 posted on 06/06/2011 3:03:33 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1
In 1800, Charles Pinckney, member of the Continental Congress; signatory to the Constitution wrote, “what better way to insure attachment to the Country than to require the President to have his American citizenship through his father and not through a foreign father.”

Yes, that one I discovered & covered back in late 2008 & early 2009. I think Leo used it also, for all the good it did.

I am completely convinced that there is NOTHING that anyone will ever do to take away the 1/2 white man's life-long retirement fund paid for by you & me. There is not one body that when elected, will stand up & do the right thing & expose this fraud! NADA...why?...because he is 1/2 black. PERIOD! ITS ALL ABOUT RACE NOW!

Sorry for the attitude, but I am worn out, in need of a break & after 3 years, I can't imagine uncovering anything new that we haven't already exposed that will make one bit of difference. I will however be interested to see what Leo puts out this week as I do not always agree with all his conclusions where the 14th is concerned because the lawyers all tend to interpret it without also using the expatriation act, which was a critical piece of sister legislation to the 14th that forever eliminated any notion of jus soli citizenship. An act, whose law governs THE OATH OF CITIZENSHIP. PERIOD!

49 posted on 06/06/2011 7:25:23 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: jmaroneps37
The Resolution 511 states:

Senate Resolution 511:

Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.

There wasn't a hospital on that base in 1936 it was not until 1938. So is McRino an actual NBC? This was done to protect Zero...no other reason.

50 posted on 06/06/2011 7:33:13 AM PDT by shield (Rev2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: patlin

Thanks for your response..do you have the source for the quote.


51 posted on 06/06/2011 8:30:43 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

Not right off hand. It is in the vast archives of the congressional records. I know it wasn’t at googlebooks, but you may be able to find it there.

I’m in the middle of moving the home of my laptop so when I’m not working/studying/researching so I can shut the door on my work mess. I just got it hooked back up and am taking a short breather. I may have time later 2moro to look unless you find it sooner. TTFN


52 posted on 06/06/2011 8:52:34 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

Do you have the source for that quote?


53 posted on 08/14/2011 6:19:42 PM PDT by bvw
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To: patlin

Google search provides no easy to find source for the quote.

Pinckney’s March 1800 remarks to Congress, as summarized in the first few pages of Google results do not include this statement.


54 posted on 08/14/2011 6:22:46 PM PDT by bvw
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