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[Air France] Crash Report Shows Confused Cockpit
Wall Street Journal ^ | May 28, 2011 | ANDY PASZTOR And DANIEL MICHAELS

Posted on 05/28/2011 6:34:47 PM PDT by lbryce

Cruising at 35,000 feet and nearly four hours into what seemed a routine overnight flight to Paris from Rio de Janeiro, an Air France cockpit crew got a stall warning and responded by doing what even weekend pilots know to avoid: They yanked the nose of the plane up instead of pointing it down to gain essential speed.

Apparently confused by repeated stall warnings and reacting to wildly fluctuating airspeed indications, pilots of Flight 447 continued to pull back sharply on the controls—contrary to standard procedure—even as the Airbus A330 plummeted toward the Atlantic Ocean, according to information released Friday by French accident investigators. The June 2009 crash ton board,

The pilots' actions are likely to lead to a global shake-up in pilot training that reappraises the role of computer aids, as aviation-safety experts increasingly worry that many airlines scrimp on drilling manual flying techniques.

Still to be answered is how seasoned pilots for a top airline, flying one of the industry's most advanced jets, violated such a fundamental rule of airmanship.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: af447; airbus; airfrance; airfrance447; flightsafety; freelazamataz; technology
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To: 1rudeboy

Hey, better than mine. Do you have a larger copy? Pleeze???


41 posted on 05/28/2011 8:55:40 PM PDT by SkyDancer (It's not the police that protect our rights, it's our military)
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To: PilotDave

Do you know about the AF296 crash? Watch the video and find out what happens when an Airbus flight computer and a pilot fight with each other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX4_Ho992TQ


42 posted on 05/28/2011 8:55:54 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

If you lose your pitot tube and are not getting any speed info but you see your VSI telling you that your airplane is dropping at a rate of -10,000+ feet/min you might think that you might be in a dive/overspeed situation and want to pull up.


43 posted on 05/28/2011 8:58:32 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: cynwoody

Hope someone at least said, “Great save!” to Jerry!


44 posted on 05/28/2011 9:01:16 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: 1rudeboy

This is just one of many available designed panels that are available when you place your order with the manufacturer.


45 posted on 05/28/2011 9:04:27 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: SkyDancer

No, I don’t . . . sorry. And I’m evacuating this thread because the yahoos have arrived.


46 posted on 05/28/2011 9:20:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Okay, thanks anyway. BTW, I receive the NTSB Reporter that lists all significant aircraft accidents. I’m waiting for this Air France crash to be reported.


47 posted on 05/28/2011 9:37:56 PM PDT by SkyDancer (It's not the police that protect our rights, it's our military)
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To: lbryce

NOVA documentary about AF447 before the data recorders were recovered.

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecX1wxWjpgs
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDsy-TCLfwg&feature=related
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otkPewDA-6E&feature=related
Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ0ScIg04pw&feature=related

It’s amazing how much the ACARs data fits with the flight data recorder.


48 posted on 05/28/2011 9:50:20 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I think there is a TD out on this aircraft regarding the probe heat.


49 posted on 05/28/2011 10:19:48 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Publius6961

Early in jet powered commercial aviation, they had looked at a system for ejecting the passengers. The sides of the plane would blow off panels, a rail would extend, and the seats would shoot out sideways and away from the tail ( up or down depending on the aircraft).each row would have it’s own chute. The idea was killed due to the passenger revenue that would have been lost because the weight of the safety system would have reduced available passenger load by about 30%. Fly the friendly skies.....


50 posted on 05/28/2011 10:28:07 PM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"...I don’t understand the problem of pitot tube icing because they have heaters in them and they will get hot enough to burn the crap out of you on the ground..."

Had a pitot tube failure om my Cardinal-RG after an annual. The heater burned though the Polyethelene tubing for the airspeed indicator.

Since I was close enough, I used the DME indicated airspeed until I entered downwind and felt my way down to a hot landing ............................ FRegards

51 posted on 05/28/2011 10:43:59 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms .................. FRegards)
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To: lbryce

Note the columns of analog instruments near the pilot´s right hand. I think these operate independently, with airspeed through a different pitot tube. Were these compromised too? Pilots? Anyone?
52 posted on 05/29/2011 9:48:02 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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