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Perry’s Path to GOP Nomination Could be the Clearest
Fox News ^ | 5-27-2011 | Chris Stirewalt - OP/ED

Posted on 05/27/2011 9:01:05 PM PDT by smoothsailing

Perry’s Path to GOP Nomination Could be the Clearest

By Chris Stirewalt

Published May 27, 2011 | FoxNews.com

Maybe Texas Gov. Rick Perry said he’s decided to test the waters on a presidential run just because he’s feels left out.

For all the attention paid to the presidential possibilities of two members of the House (Paul Ryan and Michele Bachmann) and a reality show host (you know who), you’d never know that the Republicans had on their bench the three-term governor of the state with the nation’s best economy and the largest Republican population.

But for some reason, when Perry told people he wasn’t running, reporters believed him. If Chris Christie even flies over Iowa, the blogosphere goes into meltdown mode, but the political press for some reason mostly took Perry at his word.

It seems strange that they would have.

Perry, who has been governor for more than a decade, is a favorite of the Tea Party movement for his tough stands on state sovereignty, border security, taxes and gun rights. Anybody who packs heat when he jogs so he can blow away coyotes that mess with his Labrador retriever and hangs out with Ted Nugent at a Tax Day rally is going to have serious street cred with the Republican base.

As the Perry talk heats up, these primary election positives will be reinforced by liberals who find his Texas-fried politics to be repellant. Every time Democratic cable news talkers remind viewers that Perry once warned that Texas might secede from the union if Washington kept piling on new federal powers, somewhere in Iowa or South Carolina a Republican primary voter thinks, “Not bad.” When Perry gets chided for declining photo-ops with President Obama on visits to the state, somewhere in New Hampshire a guy...

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012gopprimary; elections; fauxteapartyclaim; gop2012; perry; perry2012; rino
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To: seekthetruth

Perry used to be a ‘Rat years ago. He still has ‘Rat inclinations. He’s tried to sell out Texas farmers to Spanish business interests for a toll road from Mexico.

But on the whole, he’s more of a conservative and libetarian than most of them currently in the race, the sane ones, anyway. AND, he is able to use the word “Secession” in a sentence describing what States can do if oppressed by the federal government.

He does have charisma, too. If it came down to a choice between him and Cain, I would have to really think about it. With most of the rest of them, it would be Perry, no hesitation. Rick Santorum would be the only other real hesitation for me. He’s the man who should be president, IMO, I just don’t know if he has the charisma to get it done.


141 posted on 05/28/2011 8:29:40 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Clara Lou

No, I wasn’t suggesting that a RIF decreased my taxes. My taxes have dereased over the last 7 years. We haven’t laid off teachers until this year. It’s the other way around. The decrease in property taxes caused a decrease in revenue for the ISD which caused the layoffs.

The decline in values has already bitten us. Thus the layoffs.


142 posted on 05/28/2011 8:32:03 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Impy; Perdogg; Windflier; fieldmarshaldj

IMO, if SP doesn’t run, Harry Reems will. There is a symbiosis between them.

I can’t speak for others, but I’m certainly no “Bushite”. My support for Harry is based on:

He’s conservative “enough”.
He pretty much guarantees a replay of the GWB Electoral Vote victories. Combine that with a politically and geographically beneficial VP, and you have a fairly big EV victory.

I’m from a state about as far from TX politically as you can get; I’ve listened to Reems speak for a total of about ~5 minutes, so I’m far from being a “Perrybot”. I’m taking a practical view of looking at what candidate(s) can keep the Marxist Muslim out if the WH.

Personally, I really like McCotter and could live with Pawlenty, assuming he has truly seen the light against EtOH subsidies.


143 posted on 05/28/2011 8:34:17 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
My property taxes went down,

Are you sure you're living in Texas? My property taxes, and everybody else's that I know, have been going up, up, up, to the maximum they are allowed.
144 posted on 05/28/2011 8:37:21 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Yes, I’m sure. See #123.


145 posted on 05/28/2011 8:40:52 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: BobL
The person who Perry put in power to run the state department of transportation (thankfully dead now) had just been a lobbyist for Cintra, the Spanish company looking to make hundreds of billions of dollars (over the decades) on this scheme. There was some other revolving door stuff like that. The major newspapers here didn’t seem to have a problem at all with it...it was surreal. They normally go after Republicans, but they’ve protected him like I’ve never seen for a Republican.

I just found out in the past few days that a foreign company that partners with Cintra went and bought over 40 local newspapers up and down the main proposed TTC route.

That sent a chill down my spine, and it explained a lot of things.
146 posted on 05/28/2011 8:42:04 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70
AND, he is able to use the word “Secession” in a sentence describing what States can do if oppressed by the federal government.

No, he was playing on the emotions of people at a rally. He came out and stated that he was against secession and that he had never advocated for secession and never will, but issuing a statement through the Governor's office.
147 posted on 05/28/2011 8:46:27 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

My property taxes certainly went down. The property taxes projected for my new house by the builder went down because of the Texas property tax reduction law that passed while they were building the house. My property taxes have generally fallen since then, probably reflecting falling market values where I live.


148 posted on 05/28/2011 8:47:38 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: af_vet_rr

Most property values are down, which means assessed values and taxes are down too.

The State Comptroller projected a decline of 1.97 in 2010 and 3.47 in 2011. The actual values decreased more than that, I believe.
http://www.tasb.org/legislative/legislative/reports/2010-10-01/1value.html


149 posted on 05/28/2011 8:50:06 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Garbage.

Sorry to be rude, but what you write just isn’t true.

The only reason Perry keeps getting re-elected is because Texas is so strongly conservative/Republican that the weak Dems can’t field a good candidate.

Please recall that in the 2006 race, he faced a weak Dem legislator and two independents (Kinky Friedman, the jokester, and Carol Keeton Strayhorn Rylander, etc. etc, who billed herself as “one tough grandma.) Seriously.

And he only got 39% of the vote, which was enough to keep him in office.

Texas is doing better than most other states because we have a pro-business, independent, less-government-is-best-government mentality, with a weak governor and a legislature that only meets for a few months every two years.

We’re doing well in most respects because Perry has very little power.The passion for Perry is coming from outside Texas because he looks good and talks good. But they don’t know him by his deeds.

We do.


150 posted on 05/28/2011 9:01:46 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: seekthetruth

Please see Post #150.

Most of those yammering for Perry are outside of Texas. He looks better from afar.

I’d vote for Yosemite Sam to get Obama out of office, but Perry would be a hold-your-nose choice.


151 posted on 05/28/2011 9:04:51 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah
The passion for Perry is coming from outside Texas because he looks good and talks good. But they don’t know him by his deeds.

People outside of Texas, they know him by at least one deed that doesn't involve him butting heads with Obama - campaigning for the pro-abortion Rudy Giuliani in 2008. He hit the campaign trail in other states, he was on Fox News and I believe CNN as well as a few other outlets trying to sell Giuliani. It was a big shot in the arm for Giuilani's campaign.

It's a moot point though, most people don't seem to care about the abortion issue, otherwise they wouldn't even consider Perry. You can't really call yourself pro-life if you hit the campaign trail for a pro-abortion candidate who could have appointed pro-abortion Supreme Court justices were he elected.
152 posted on 05/28/2011 9:09:50 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: seekthetruth

Perry is a fair weather RINO at best. Each time he’s proved he’s liberal for three years and then about 6 months before the election he suddenly turns conservative.

He was the Texas chairman for Algore’s campaign.
He panders to illegals.
He supported the Dream Act.
He’s all talk and no action on securing the border.
He’s done nothing about sanctuary cities.
His pet project is the Trans-Texas Corridor (toll road) which is nothing but a straight shot from Mexico to points north.
He was the Texas chairman for Algore’s campaign.
Then there was the partnership with his Gardasil friend where he came very close to passing a bill for girls to get the shot. While that bill was shot down by parents, he did get a program where they can get the vaccine administered by the school nurse for free. Gardasil is still getting taxpayer $$$ from that.
He loves, loves, loves his veto power.
He was the Texas chairman for Algore’s campaign.
Then he pandered to too big for their pants UT when they whined about the Top 10% rule (which was their fault in the first place - a few years ago white students won a discriminatory suit against UT so all state universities must admit the top 10% of high school graduates). Two years ago, UT president actually said with a straight face they would have to shut down the football program (oh, the hugh manatee!!!) if they had to follow the 10% rule. Oooh, aren’t they special. To appease the big money UT Exes and to save the Longhorns, UT is the only school who has an 8% rule.
And there’s the problem with him using tax dollars to pay for countless personal expenses.
He claims to have held down taxes and reformed the property tax but I’d like him to explain why when we bought our house, the taxes equaled two weeks of our take home pay but for the last few years we’ve struggled with property taxes equalling two MONTHS of our take home pay.
He created an Obama style stimulus which resulted in millions of taxpayer dollars lost in his Texas Enterprise program.
Then there’s the continuing problems from the lottery monies never finding their way to the schools as well as not correcting the many years old ridiculous Robin Hood Plan which takes taxes paid from one school district and gives it to another district.

Oh, yeah, and did I mention he was the Texas chairman for Algore’s campaign?


153 posted on 05/28/2011 9:17:40 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: dusttoyou; gov_bean_ counter
The reality in Texas is that the governor has very little control over the Legislature, leadership or Bills.

Then explain why he's used his veto power more than any other governor except one?

154 posted on 05/28/2011 9:21:31 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Beagle8U
Excellent!

There's alot of information there...


Rick Perry is a Moderate Conservative

155 posted on 05/28/2011 9:21:43 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: BuckeyeTexan; BobH
From an electoral standpoint, the "more electable" Perry is certainly weaker than Pawlenty. In other for Pawlenty to bring the same credentials to the table, he would have had to have been governor of a safely Republican midwestern state where the GOP holds every statewide office (let's say North Dakota), sworn into the job "by default" when the previous Governor resigned, won renomination against some RINO state official nobody likes and a kook, gotten re-elected by a simple plurality in North Dakota several times, and his toughest Democrat opponent ever would have been the mayor of Bismark.

That's pretty much Perry's electoral history. He's proven to be "electable" in a safely Republican state against Scott McClellan's mommy "Grandma Strayhorn", a liberal country music singer; a 9/11 truther, the mayor of Houston, etc.

Any reasonable Republican can see Pawlenty was elected Governor under far tougher circumstances.

From a governing standpoint, it's pretty much a wash. Both Perry and Pawlenty have an acceptable conservative platform and didn't do anything too bad but their records are meh. You're bashing Pawlenty for promising conservatives some red meat and then forgetting about it after he re-elected? Seriously? Perry's famous for doing that, it's known throughout the country that Rick "Texas should secede, yeeehawww!" Perry always say stuff to fire up tea party rallies that he never pushes for after he's re-elected. His list of past non-conservative positions is certainly equal to Pawlenty: Trans-Texas Corridor, DREAM act, signed tuition for illegals, was against building a border fence, promised Texans "no new taxes" then passed new toll roads and cigarette tax increases, etc.

Actually, the election results pretty much speak for themselves on that. 51% of Texas Republicans renominated Rick Perry for Governor. 89% of Minnesota Republicans renominated Tim Pawlenty for Governor. Gee, I wonder who's more popular with their party's base?

156 posted on 05/28/2011 9:23:20 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; BobL
From an electoral standpoint, the "more electable" Perry is certainly weaker than Pawlenty. In other for Pawlenty to bring the same credentials to the table, he would have had to have been governor of a safely Republican midwestern state where the GOP holds every statewide office (let's say North Dakota), sworn into the job "by default" when the previous Governor resigned, won renomination against some RINO state official nobody likes and a kook, gotten re-elected by a simple plurality in North Dakota several times, and his toughest Democrat opponent ever would have been the mayor of Bismark.

That's pretty much Perry's electoral history. He's proven to be "electable" in a safely Republican state against Scott McClellan's mommy "Grandma Strayhorn", a liberal country music singer; a 9/11 truther, the mayor of Houston, etc.

Any reasonable Republican can see Pawlenty was elected Governor under far tougher circumstances.

From a governing standpoint, it's pretty much a wash. Both Perry and Pawlenty have an acceptable conservative platform and didn't do anything too bad but their records are meh. You're bashing Pawlenty for promising conservatives some red meat and then forgetting about it after he re-elected? Seriously? Perry's famous for doing that, it's known throughout the country that Rick "Texas should secede, yeeehawww!" Perry always say stuff to fire up tea party rallies that he never pushes for after he's re-elected. His list of past non-conservative positions is certainly equal to Pawlenty: Trans-Texas Corridor, DREAM act, signed tuition for illegals, was against building a border fence, promised Texans "no new taxes" then passed new toll roads and cigarette tax increases, etc.

Actually, the election results pretty much speak for themselves on that. 51% of Texas Republicans renominated Rick Perry for Governor. 89% of Minnesota Republicans renominated Tim Pawlenty for Governor. Gee, I wonder who's more popular with their party's base?

157 posted on 05/28/2011 9:30:19 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Jedidah

I disagree with you....as most Texans did when he beat back a formidable challenger in Kay Baily Hutchinson. You conveniently forgot that fact it appears...


158 posted on 05/28/2011 9:31:30 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver
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To: af_vet_rr

This “border issue” is a most difficult situation, especially for a politician.

Perry will take some hits, but in the longrun he is right and as you say more RIGHT than even W. The USA could have a hellofa lot worse President, and has had and DOES.

I admit, growing up hearing “Remember the Alamo” and seeing Border towns like Acuna did instill a certain disdane for those people. My Grand Parents lived on a little farm in Del Rio, I spent most and usually all Summers there growing up, so I may have a slightly different perspective than some Texans.

Now I can see some mutual benefits for more open border, so long as we are not invaded by hordes looking for freebies or looking to subvert our Texas culture into the mess they come from. Want to work productively and honestly and also work toward citizenship the old fashion way, we welcome those Mexicans.


159 posted on 05/28/2011 9:32:41 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: ICCtheWay
A friend sent me this:

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news4/outcry_texas_highway_sell.ht

160 posted on 05/28/2011 9:35:25 AM PDT by seekthetruth (We The People stand with Israel, even though Obama stands with our enemies!)
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