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Oklahomans Outraged Over Ersland Conviction
KOCO.com ^ | May 27, 2011 | N/A

Posted on 05/27/2011 6:21:20 PM PDT by MizSterious

Oklahomans Outraged Over Ersland Conviction

Residents Ask Gov. Mary Fallin To Pardon Jerome Ersland

POSTED: 5:51 pm CDT May 27, 2011
UPDATED: 6:07 pm CDT May 27, 2011

OKLAHOMA CITY -- Some Oklahomans are outraged over the conviction of pharmacist Jerome Ersland, and they are turning to social media to voice their opinions.

A jury found Ersland guilty of murder in connection with the fatal shooting of 16-year-old Antwun Parker, sparking a backlash of citizens outraged with the verdict.

Dozens of calls have been made to Gov. Mary Fallin's office along with messages posted on the governor's Facebook wall, asking her to pardon Ersland.

"For us to punish someone who was protecting his employees and his business was really unlawful," said resident Brandy Crawford. "I feel bad for all the families involved. I really feel bad for the mother losing her child the way she did. But when people commit crimes, they have to understand there are consequences to that crime."


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antwun; banglist; ersland; okc; oklahoma; pharmacist
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To: wideawake

Maybe. If a SWAT team did the same thing, it would be a “good shoot” because “cops deserve to go home at night”.


21 posted on 05/27/2011 7:08:42 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: wideawake
I notice you always tend to take “the moral high ground”on these types of threads, and yes, I am be facetious.
22 posted on 05/27/2011 7:09:22 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: MileHi

“And no, we won’t be able to have a grown up conversation about it.”

That would be a shame. It’s 150 years since the beginning of another sort of solution to an American problem, one other countries also had but solved relatively peacefully. And what have we learned?


23 posted on 05/27/2011 7:15:00 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: wideawake

I agree with that.


24 posted on 05/27/2011 7:15:13 PM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: Dick Vomer
It's all on tape. No one was thrashing and he was the only one armed - he calmly killed an unconscious, unarmed crook in cold blood.

It started out as self-defense and ended as premeditated murder.

25 posted on 05/27/2011 7:16:25 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Dick Vomer

It was all on tape...the investigators would have figured out how many bullets were fired.


26 posted on 05/27/2011 7:20:43 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: A Strict Constructionist

There are actually many parallels between the two cases. Like the SWAT team in the Guerena case, Ersland fired far more rounds than necessary and endangered anyone in the vicinity - and Ersland made sure that his target was dead before any medical help could arrive. And in both cases, there’s video.


27 posted on 05/27/2011 7:20:46 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: khnyny

Ah, thread stalking. Very nice.


28 posted on 05/27/2011 7:21:44 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

It started out as self-defense and ended as premeditated murder.


The events caused him to react. This was not premeditated. Hopefully you will never have this happen to you.


29 posted on 05/27/2011 7:24:00 PM PDT by o-n-money
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To: okie01

Well I was just saying that after the guy was shot in the head and laying on the floor, what threat did he pose? I think it was a bit over-kill on the part of the pharmacist. Then too, some of his statements to the police and investigators didn’t stand up. Just saying.


30 posted on 05/27/2011 7:24:56 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice)
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To: MizSterious

Okie, (no pun intended) Dokie, so, if the pharmacist hadn’t emptied the magazine, and the Frenchman Antwun had died anyway, the pharmacist would have gotten off?


31 posted on 05/27/2011 7:27:30 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: wideawake

Thanks for ignoring my grammar.


32 posted on 05/27/2011 7:34:17 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...My theory is, college student body presidents become DEMS orRINO's.)
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To: wideawake
It's all on tape. No one was thrashing ...

False. There is nothing on tape that shows whether Antwun was conscious or unconscious or whether he was moving or not.

33 posted on 05/27/2011 7:39:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: o-n-money
This was definitely premeditated. After he put the crook down, he went outside and emptied his weapon into the air. Then he went back inside, past the unconscious crook, went looking for another weapon, found it, walked back over to the unconscious crook and shot an unarmed, unconscious man five times when he thought no one was looking.

Then he lied about what he did.

34 posted on 05/27/2011 7:40:57 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Nothing that happens in trying circumstances can be described as “premedidated”. Did he plan it days, weeks, hours ahead? Did he plan it?


35 posted on 05/27/2011 7:43:57 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: OldNewYork
And what have we learned?

I think we learned that Al Sharpton, Shiela Jacson Lee and the Black Caucus won't let us move on because ther is too much money in poverty pimping. 0b0z0 has made a living off of that. Sorry, you were foolishly trying to be reasonable. FReegards

36 posted on 05/27/2011 7:48:30 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Revolting cat!
Premeditation requires that someone stop, to decide whether or not they are going to commit a crime and then to go ahead and commit it.

The law does not provide for any free time outs.

He obviously planned it - he looked at the crook, he went back, walked behind the counter,, retrieved another weapon and then walked back over and fired five rounds into the guy.

37 posted on 05/27/2011 7:50:53 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
It started out as self-defense and ended as premeditated murder.

I thought it started as an attempted armed robbery and ended as an attempted armed robbery.

38 posted on 05/27/2011 7:52:24 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: wideawake

“The law is a ass”. The law now says, go ahead rob those drugstores, the pharmacists have been intimidated now!


39 posted on 05/27/2011 7:53:30 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: TigersEye
If he was conscious and thrashing, he elicited no reaction in Ersland's body language or pace, and he confined all the thrashing to a very restricted area.

Ersland's demeanor as he finished him off was nonchalant, not the body language of a man dealing with someone who was harassing or resisting.

Ersland was not exactly following the old eightfold path on that one.

40 posted on 05/27/2011 7:54:22 PM PDT by wideawake
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