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Dramatic footage shows moment Iraq war vet was shot 70 times in home
UK Daily Mail ^ | 5/27/11 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 05/27/2011 11:44:07 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Agreed. the SWAT team that let this brave man die, after protecting his family, should be hanged.

“When she encountered the SWAT team, ‘the only thing I told them was take care of him, take him to a hospital,’ Ms Guerena told ABC.
An ambulance reportedly arrived in a few minutes, but medical personnel were not allowed inside to see Mr Guerena for an hour and 14 minutes, the family’s attorney, Chris Scileppi, told ABC News affiliate KGUN.
In contrast, it took responders only 12 minutes to address Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who was shot in Tucson in January, according to Mr Scileppi.
Mr Storie defended the SWAT team’s actions, saying, ‘They still don’t know how many shooters are inside, how many guns are inside and they still have to assume that they will be ambushed if they walk in this house’. “


21 posted on 05/27/2011 12:00:33 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: ScreamingFist

I’m sorry he was hit 22 times, the other 50 were sprayed around the neighborhood....


22 posted on 05/27/2011 12:01:23 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Roccus
ICBW, but it seemed like only 5 seconds between the knock and the break-in.

There were 27 seconds between the time of the siren and the door being opened. Enough time for the resident to get his weapon. There was another eight seconds before the first shot was fired.

23 posted on 05/27/2011 12:02:58 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Elendur
An ambulance reportedly arrived in a few minutes, but medical personnel were not allowed inside to see Mr Guerena for an hour and 14 minutes, the family’s attorney, Chris Scileppi, told ABC News affiliate KGUN.

They knew he was dead once the robot was sent in.

24 posted on 05/27/2011 12:04:22 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

>There were 27 seconds between the time of the siren and the door being opened. Enough time for the resident to get his weapon. There was another eight seconds before the first shot was fired. <

We have a right to defend ourselves. Even from the Gestapo.


25 posted on 05/27/2011 12:05:27 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Dear Lord, Please judge Barack Hussein Obama for betraying Israel, and not the whole nation. Amen.)
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To: Moonman62
There were 27 seconds between the time of the siren and the door being opened. Enough time for the resident to get his weapon. There was another eight seconds before the first shot was fired.

He had to wake up, tell his wife to go to the closet, retrieve a weapon, take a defensive stance and identify his target....his safety was still on....unlike SWAT.

26 posted on 05/27/2011 12:09:13 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

The police serving the warrant have the right to defend themselves. Don’t point your weapon at anything you don’t intend to shoot.


27 posted on 05/27/2011 12:10:30 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: JennysCool

And yet the worst punishment that any of them will receive will be a letter of reprimand in their file that will be thrown out in 6 months.


28 posted on 05/27/2011 12:10:58 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Longdriver

“The SCOTUS hates the 4th Amendment but loves the Big Govt Police State.”

The SCOTUS ..at this point..works for our masters. The watering of the tree of liberty is on the cusp of commencing.


29 posted on 05/27/2011 12:12:15 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: MrB
Another comment - if the cops shoot any more vets like this, the vets might just get together and figure out how to do something about it... beyond rallying.

Absolutely ... the cops are more and more being viewed as the enemy to our once free society. In my opinion, they better start picking sides ... because WHEN ... not if the SHTF ... the ones on the government side are going to become fair game

30 posted on 05/27/2011 12:13:33 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Hoping to have some change left)
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To: Moonman62

You defend the jackbooted thugs when they murder an innocent American?

Do you defend them for preventing the ambulances from arriving for over an hour, while he bled to death in his own home?

If you had any decency, you would be ashamed of yourself. Absolutely disgusting and shameful. I hope you are not an American.


31 posted on 05/27/2011 12:13:33 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Dear Lord, Please judge Barack Hussein Obama for betraying Israel, and not the whole nation. Amen.)
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To: Moonman62
The police serving the warrant have the right to defend themselves. Don’t point your weapon at anything you don’t intend to shoot.

So they saw a man with a weapon.....and unload. Watch the coward that first runs away and then runs back so he can pull a trigger. They couldn't even be assed to determine if the wife had left with the kids. Is this your idea of professional police work?

32 posted on 05/27/2011 12:15:38 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Fido969
Cops were WRONG about being fired upon, how could they make a mistake like that

Not a mistake. A lie! What they did was intentional.

And LEOs and their fervant supports wonder why we are growing distrustful.

33 posted on 05/27/2011 12:18:08 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (How much longer can the charade last?)
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To: MrB
Another comment - if the cops shoot any more vets like this, the vets might just get together and figure out how to do something about it... beyond rallying.

The enemy is within. It will not be long and the hunt for rouge police will be on. When the very laws seem to protect murder like this then the law will not be obeyed.

34 posted on 05/27/2011 12:19:19 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: MrB

OATH KEEPERS MUSTER:

What – An Oath Keepers muster. Oath Keepers and friends will muster and march to the home of Mrs. Vanessa Guerena for a ceremony of memoriam for her late husband Jose Guerena, a U.S. Marine Corps veteran of the Iraq war.

When – 8:00 a.m. sharp Monday morning Memorial Day, May 30, 2011

Where - The intersection of West Valencia Road and South Wade Road. Take I-10 to I-19 South and exit West Valencia Road to South Wade Road, Tucson, Arizona. See below

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/05/25/oath-keepers-muster-_-tucson-info/

—————————Rest at site———


35 posted on 05/27/2011 12:19:40 PM PDT by NoNAIS (Yet another Government program not needed.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
You defend the jackbooted thugs when they murder an innocent American? Do you defend them for preventing the ambulances from arriving for over an hour, while he bled to death in his own home? If you had any decency, you would be ashamed of yourself. Absolutely disgusting and shameful. I hope you are not an American.

Not only that. Those defending this obvious despicable act of murder by the authorities, will be responsible for the increase in these kinds of reprehensible events, rather than the decrease.
36 posted on 05/27/2011 12:20:04 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Moonman62
Again.....5 seconds between the knock and the break-in.
37 posted on 05/27/2011 12:20:37 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: ScreamingFist

“Statists” like those who defend these Gestapo tactics are what’s wrong with America.

“Statists” like these are why we had an American Revolution.

“Statists” like these are the reason we are in the middle of a second American Revolution.

“Statists” like these have no concept of the fury of the American People, once it reaches full vent.


38 posted on 05/27/2011 12:20:56 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Dear Lord, Please judge Barack Hussein Obama for betraying Israel, and not the whole nation. Amen.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

So far, yes, it is crazy and depressing that I would like to see what charges were up for the man who got shot? Were those charges, or the man’s own records, serious enough that a SWAT Team needed to bust in and do the job?

It is really disappointing and sad that such an event like this happened, especially from the people whose job is to protect us domestically as well.


39 posted on 05/27/2011 12:25:39 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Based on the combat situation traing I got years ago, this “SWAT” team was trained by a moron.
Wandering around like lost puppies just before an dog show.


40 posted on 05/27/2011 12:26:05 PM PDT by Zathras
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