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To: Roccus
ICBW, but it seemed like only 5 seconds between the knock and the break-in.

There were 27 seconds between the time of the siren and the door being opened. Enough time for the resident to get his weapon. There was another eight seconds before the first shot was fired.

23 posted on 05/27/2011 12:02:58 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

>There were 27 seconds between the time of the siren and the door being opened. Enough time for the resident to get his weapon. There was another eight seconds before the first shot was fired. <

We have a right to defend ourselves. Even from the Gestapo.


25 posted on 05/27/2011 12:05:27 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Dear Lord, Please judge Barack Hussein Obama for betraying Israel, and not the whole nation. Amen.)
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To: Moonman62
There were 27 seconds between the time of the siren and the door being opened. Enough time for the resident to get his weapon. There was another eight seconds before the first shot was fired.

He had to wake up, tell his wife to go to the closet, retrieve a weapon, take a defensive stance and identify his target....his safety was still on....unlike SWAT.

26 posted on 05/27/2011 12:09:13 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Moonman62
Again.....5 seconds between the knock and the break-in.
37 posted on 05/27/2011 12:20:37 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Moonman62
There were 27 seconds between the time of the siren and the door being opened. Enough time for the resident to get his weapon.

So it is now acceptable to fire upon a person because he MIGHT have time to get a WEAPON that he MIGHT or might not have?

There was another eight seconds before the first shot was fired

More than enough time for the murderers, errr, SWAT team, to determine that he did NOT have a weapon, and did NOT fire upon them.

This was murder. In a just system, those who shot even once would be suspended without pay until they could be trained to not fire until it is proper to do so. The person in charge of this raid should be fired, and have their retirement pay halved. The murderer, err, officer who shot first should be in jail.

THEN maybe those who supposedly "protect and serve" will start acting appropriately.

Once upon a time, we would rather let 100 guilty men go free than to simply jail one innocent man. Now we murder people and allow the officials responsible to cover it up to avoid embarrassment. I admired that old system. Now that the effeminization of America has made Security far more important than Liberty, we can look forward to much more of this kind of oppression... all in the name of Public Safety.

Another recent example to raise your ire: A drunk (at 11am) on-duty cop (he marked himself and his K-9 as "in-service" 20 min before, without attending roll call) plowed his cruiser into 4 motorcyclists, killing one, and severely injuring 2 more. The police who arrived on the scene said they "didn't smell alcohol" (although he was .19, and Indiana's limit is .08). The blood test was "mishandled" (a non-DUI-certified lab tech drew the blood), and thus that evidence against him was declared inadmissible in the officer's trial. The DUI charges were dropped. David Bisard

325 posted on 05/28/2011 7:42:44 AM PDT by Teacher317 (really?)
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