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Documents: SWAT officer fired 'until his weapon ran dry'
KOLD news ^ | 5/26/2011 | Sonu Wasu

Posted on 05/27/2011 12:29:33 AM PDT by petitfour

The Pima County Sheriff's Department released video, audio, and more than 500 pages of incident reports and interview transcripts related to the May 5 shooting death of a former Marine.

The shooting took place while officers were serving a warrant in a drug conspiracy case at Jose Guerena's home, on Redwater Street.

The SWAT team arrived at the home just before 9:30 a.m., hoping that children would be out of the house and at school at that time.

The video of the whole incident times out at 1 minute and 17 seconds.

It starts with a team of SWAT officers driving up to the Guerena home.

It appears to be peaceful and quiet, but in transcripts officers stated they were on high alert, after being told the suspect they were about to encounter could be armed, and that they were heading to a home where the residents may be linked to home invasions, drug deals and possibly murder.

When they get to the scene they quickly take up their positions.

In an audio recording provided to KOLD News 13 by the Sheriff's Department, you can hear SWAT officers knocking on the front door and announcing who they are at least three times. They do this in both English and Spanish.

(Excerpt) Read more at kold.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guerena; joseguerena; killswat; pimacounty; swat; swatabuse; tucson
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To: petitfour
Execution at the hands of SWAT storm Troopers: Every town has em! You're just not an effective Police Agency without your own SS!

Mike

21 posted on 05/27/2011 4:19:04 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: TigersEye

You know, actual police work rather than acting like a Guatemalan Death Squad.

Those little girls on the swat team didn’t sign up to do police work.


22 posted on 05/27/2011 4:37:36 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: petitfour

From the article “The big question still remains unanswered. Who fired the first shot?. Was it Guerena or a SWAT team officer? Did Guerena fire at all?”

I thought the 3rd question was answered - the safety was still on, so that answer would be NO. Therefore the answer to the second question can’t be Guerena and the answer to the first question also can’t be Guerena.


23 posted on 05/27/2011 4:38:14 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

I knew all this was coming when PD started wearing boots and fatigues.


24 posted on 05/27/2011 4:46:18 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: 1010RD

As I white male Christian non-union gun owner, I get it. I get it like a German Jew in the 1930’s. I have been shot at before, and I have made decisions that have led to the deaths of others, legally, not negligent.

As we say in the South, I ain’t skeered.


25 posted on 05/27/2011 4:51:44 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe ( "Failure to speak out against evil is evil itself" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer)
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To: petitfour

Once the country has been turned into a police state like this, how in the world do we turn it back?

Watching the horror show unfold and objecting to the injustice time after time, does not move it. Seems we need a political plan of action with political and legal experts to study the monster and leglislation we want passed to kill it without turning the country over to the ravishing criminals that have occupied our Nation.

I should think, targeting and removing the people who directed Homeland inSecurity and police to go after Iraq vets as domestic terrorists, would be a number one action item. The ADL and the Southern Law Poverty Center are the “hate” experts who have shifted law enforcement action from Islamic terrorists and criminal gangs onto their social and political enemies. The Democrat Party is using the Patriot Act to go after it’s social and political enemies just like they did under Clinton. They went after this guy with such force because they were trained to be doubly afraid of him - he’s was an Iraq vet. Seems we should be ready to pin these murders on the enemies within who have created and trained the mentality of this police state monster to view Americans as terrorists.

We are headed for another high profile mass murder as we saw during the time of Waco.


26 posted on 05/27/2011 4:55:31 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: pepsionice

I agre with much you have said; but alot of crime is moving to small town America because the perps know there is not the manpower to counter them. MS13 types and the meth cookers set up out in the country. Less “interference” there.


27 posted on 05/27/2011 5:01:14 AM PDT by joelt
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To: pepsionice
I agree with much you have said; but alot of crime is moving to small town America because the perps know there is not the manpower to counter them. MS13 types and the meth cookers set up out in the country. Less “interference” there.
28 posted on 05/27/2011 5:01:55 AM PDT by joelt
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To: petitfour

I may get banned for saying this, but it needs to be said.
These atrocities against innocent American citizens will continue until Americans stand up on their hind legs and starting putting some of “them” into the ground where they belong.


29 posted on 05/27/2011 5:04:43 AM PDT by semaj (Anybody who claims that violence never solved anything is a liar..., just ask the government.)
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To: petitfour

Ammunition on a raid is like beer on a fishing trip.....don’t make sense to carry any back home.


30 posted on 05/27/2011 5:15:13 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

No one in the drug trade is going to be working the night shift in a copper mine either.


31 posted on 05/27/2011 5:40:11 AM PDT by ABN 505
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To: pepsionice
The fact that towns with 40k residents now have SWAT teams....ought to worry about the necessity of such tactics in small-town America.

The Death Squad mentality is infectious, even the Austin fire department has come down with disease of violence in that they now have units that seem to have nothing to do with their primary mission.

The other day, I saw the fire department's "Regional Strike Force" tactical unit out as the wanna-be goons were out conducting drills. Towed behind the Assault Truck was a Zodiac inflatable. I'm cool with that since I can see water rescues as one of their legitimate roles - but this Zodiac is different. It was flat black, no reflective markings on it. Now why in heck would a fire department rescue unit have a inflatable boat in tactical black? Is this so they can sneak up stealthily upon a drowning victim?

Recently I was passed on the road by another Fire Department vehicle marked "Special Operations Battalion". Really? We need a SPEC-OPS team that of all terms to define themselves originates from the military - "battalion" ? How does this work out? Someone calls in a heart attack and SPEC-OPS comes out, swarms the "compound" and shoots the vic? How are the original JBTs going to take this when they have competition in dealing out violence to citizens? Is this a tax-payer underwritten version of Bloods vs Crips?

I don't recognize this country anymore - even the Fire Department wants to have a hyper-violent Rambo image.

32 posted on 05/27/2011 5:47:07 AM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

I’ve said since day one of this story that the Confidential Informant is the real issue.


33 posted on 05/27/2011 5:48:12 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: pepsionice

The judge relies on two things: What is actually written in the warrant, and his opinion of the reliability of the officer who applies for the warrant.

I’d suggest that when one of these raids goes bad and attacks an innocent person, then the officer who applied for the warrant (and his partner) would be ineligible for any future warrants for an extended period of time, like 5 years.

That would make most police officers investigate more fully before going to a judge with a warrant request. They wouldn’t trust CIs nearly so much if THEY faced such a sanction for a “mistake”.

In this case, it appears the CI had a debt to settle, or the LEOs were leaning hard on him for information and he lied to them to avoid giving up the real gangsters.


34 posted on 05/27/2011 5:58:37 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: pepsionice
The fact that towns with 40k residents now have SWAT teams....ought to worry about the necessity of such tactics in small-town America.

SWAT should be restricted to the state police level. Local cops need SWAT? They call in the state troopers AFTER presenting them with a DAMN good reason for the request. And if the reasons are flawed, then the local cops have the state police AND the governor pissed off at them.

35 posted on 05/27/2011 6:02:53 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: joelt
"I agre with much you have said; but alot of crime is moving to small town America because the perps know there is not the manpower to counter them. MS13 types and the meth cookers set up out in the country. Less “interference” there."

I don't think that's the problem. Virtually every county, and I'm guessing every city over 75,000 has it's own flavor of SWAT, SRT, or whatever moniker you want to hang on it. That doesn't count the state police entities, game warden SRTs (yes, there are such things), Department of Agriculture, DEA, US Marshals, FBI, ATFE, and numerous other federal entities. The problem is not a shortage of manpower or equipment; it's a lack of willingness to go after the criminals that might actually shoot back.

36 posted on 05/27/2011 6:06:55 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I used to think that the political threats for cutting spending at the police departments was a bad thing. This story makes me think that cutting the police forces may actually be a good thing.


37 posted on 05/27/2011 6:43:55 AM PDT by bbernard
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To: bbernard
I would really not have a problem with LEOs receiving nice, comfortable salaries concurrent with their level of responsibility and accountability. As it stands now, they (for the most part) receive nice salaries, benefits packages and pensions, and can quite literally, get away with murder.

Get rid of the union protections, and make them civilly and criminally liable. I'm guessing you would attract fewer, higher qualified candidates.

38 posted on 05/27/2011 6:50:49 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: The Theophilus

I live in a small town. The fire marshal carries a Glock on his hip for some reason.


39 posted on 05/27/2011 7:28:16 AM PDT by Paytriot (Live long and prosper)
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To: petitfour

40 posted on 05/27/2011 7:45:16 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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