Posted on 05/27/2011 12:29:33 AM PDT by petitfour
The Pima County Sheriff's Department released video, audio, and more than 500 pages of incident reports and interview transcripts related to the May 5 shooting death of a former Marine.
The shooting took place while officers were serving a warrant in a drug conspiracy case at Jose Guerena's home, on Redwater Street.
The SWAT team arrived at the home just before 9:30 a.m., hoping that children would be out of the house and at school at that time.
The video of the whole incident times out at 1 minute and 17 seconds.
It starts with a team of SWAT officers driving up to the Guerena home.
It appears to be peaceful and quiet, but in transcripts officers stated they were on high alert, after being told the suspect they were about to encounter could be armed, and that they were heading to a home where the residents may be linked to home invasions, drug deals and possibly murder.
When they get to the scene they quickly take up their positions.
In an audio recording provided to KOLD News 13 by the Sheriff's Department, you can hear SWAT officers knocking on the front door and announcing who they are at least three times. They do this in both English and Spanish.
(Excerpt) Read more at kold.com ...
Mike
You know, actual police work rather than acting like a Guatemalan Death Squad.
Those little girls on the swat team didn’t sign up to do police work.
From the article “The big question still remains unanswered. Who fired the first shot?. Was it Guerena or a SWAT team officer? Did Guerena fire at all?”
I thought the 3rd question was answered - the safety was still on, so that answer would be NO. Therefore the answer to the second question can’t be Guerena and the answer to the first question also can’t be Guerena.
I knew all this was coming when PD started wearing boots and fatigues.
As I white male Christian non-union gun owner, I get it. I get it like a German Jew in the 1930’s. I have been shot at before, and I have made decisions that have led to the deaths of others, legally, not negligent.
As we say in the South, I ain’t skeered.
Once the country has been turned into a police state like this, how in the world do we turn it back?
Watching the horror show unfold and objecting to the injustice time after time, does not move it. Seems we need a political plan of action with political and legal experts to study the monster and leglislation we want passed to kill it without turning the country over to the ravishing criminals that have occupied our Nation.
I should think, targeting and removing the people who directed Homeland inSecurity and police to go after Iraq vets as domestic terrorists, would be a number one action item. The ADL and the Southern Law Poverty Center are the “hate” experts who have shifted law enforcement action from Islamic terrorists and criminal gangs onto their social and political enemies. The Democrat Party is using the Patriot Act to go after it’s social and political enemies just like they did under Clinton. They went after this guy with such force because they were trained to be doubly afraid of him - he’s was an Iraq vet. Seems we should be ready to pin these murders on the enemies within who have created and trained the mentality of this police state monster to view Americans as terrorists.
We are headed for another high profile mass murder as we saw during the time of Waco.
I agre with much you have said; but alot of crime is moving to small town America because the perps know there is not the manpower to counter them. MS13 types and the meth cookers set up out in the country. Less “interference” there.
I may get banned for saying this, but it needs to be said.
These atrocities against innocent American citizens will continue until Americans stand up on their hind legs and starting putting some of “them” into the ground where they belong.
Ammunition on a raid is like beer on a fishing trip.....don’t make sense to carry any back home.
No one in the drug trade is going to be working the night shift in a copper mine either.
The fact that towns with 40k residents now have SWAT teams....ought to worry about the necessity of such tactics in small-town America.
The Death Squad mentality is infectious, even the Austin fire department has come down with disease of violence in that they now have units that seem to have nothing to do with their primary mission.
The other day, I saw the fire department's "Regional Strike Force" tactical unit out as the wanna-be goons were out conducting drills. Towed behind the Assault Truck was a Zodiac inflatable. I'm cool with that since I can see water rescues as one of their legitimate roles - but this Zodiac is different. It was flat black, no reflective markings on it. Now why in heck would a fire department rescue unit have a inflatable boat in tactical black? Is this so they can sneak up stealthily upon a drowning victim?
Recently I was passed on the road by another Fire Department vehicle marked "Special Operations Battalion". Really? We need a SPEC-OPS team that of all terms to define themselves originates from the military - "battalion" ? How does this work out? Someone calls in a heart attack and SPEC-OPS comes out, swarms the "compound" and shoots the vic? How are the original JBTs going to take this when they have competition in dealing out violence to citizens? Is this a tax-payer underwritten version of Bloods vs Crips?
I don't recognize this country anymore - even the Fire Department wants to have a hyper-violent Rambo image.
I’ve said since day one of this story that the Confidential Informant is the real issue.
The judge relies on two things: What is actually written in the warrant, and his opinion of the reliability of the officer who applies for the warrant.
I’d suggest that when one of these raids goes bad and attacks an innocent person, then the officer who applied for the warrant (and his partner) would be ineligible for any future warrants for an extended period of time, like 5 years.
That would make most police officers investigate more fully before going to a judge with a warrant request. They wouldn’t trust CIs nearly so much if THEY faced such a sanction for a “mistake”.
In this case, it appears the CI had a debt to settle, or the LEOs were leaning hard on him for information and he lied to them to avoid giving up the real gangsters.
SWAT should be restricted to the state police level. Local cops need SWAT? They call in the state troopers AFTER presenting them with a DAMN good reason for the request. And if the reasons are flawed, then the local cops have the state police AND the governor pissed off at them.
I don't think that's the problem. Virtually every county, and I'm guessing every city over 75,000 has it's own flavor of SWAT, SRT, or whatever moniker you want to hang on it. That doesn't count the state police entities, game warden SRTs (yes, there are such things), Department of Agriculture, DEA, US Marshals, FBI, ATFE, and numerous other federal entities. The problem is not a shortage of manpower or equipment; it's a lack of willingness to go after the criminals that might actually shoot back.
I used to think that the political threats for cutting spending at the police departments was a bad thing. This story makes me think that cutting the police forces may actually be a good thing.
Get rid of the union protections, and make them civilly and criminally liable. I'm guessing you would attract fewer, higher qualified candidates.
I live in a small town. The fire marshal carries a Glock on his hip for some reason.
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