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Jews in Name Only
Town Hall ^ | 5/25/2011 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 05/25/2011 8:04:21 AM PDT by KeyLargo

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To: Carl LaFong

Apparently, to most American Jews, the only really important thing is what people think of you in Synogogue.


21 posted on 05/25/2011 8:38:57 AM PDT by dools0007world
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To: KeyLargo

This sound likes Al Sharpton’s complaint that blacks who vote the “wrong” way are race traitors. Much as I hate this kind of smear, this attempt to brand any Jew who dares criticize Bibi actually borders on a form of anti-semiticism.


22 posted on 05/25/2011 8:38:59 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Jonty30
If Jews who don’t love Israel are Jews in name only, does that make them Italian?

Good question. Just who are they talking about when they say "Jews". Is it a nationality? Can't be because there are Jews of Many different nationalities. Is it a religion? Seems so because you can convert to Judaism, except many who call themselves Jews are non-religious. Do you have to support the current Israeli government to be a Jew? That doesn't make any sense.

It is a good question that should be answered at least to the extent the classification as a "jew" is used in a poll.

23 posted on 05/25/2011 8:39:12 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Marie
I quit going to shul when the lay leader told me that she couldn’t defend any of Israel’s actions against the Palestinians.

I had a "free" membership with a Reform synagogue because I volunteered my IT services for them. I only attended services there one time, and that only time the Rabbi brought up crime and gun control during his sermon. I never went back, though I continued to do volunteer work there for a few more years before I simply didn't have to time to donate any more.

I was raised in an Orthodox home, and went to a Jewish day school. I have very strong views and opinions on Judaism, and respect those who have made the commitment to be Orthodox, but frankly, I'm simply too lazy to be observant. When I do go to services, which isn't often at all, I go to a local Chabad House, which reminds me of the joy I saw in my Schul when I was growing up.

Mark

24 posted on 05/25/2011 8:39:45 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: texaschick
The only way this (Jews voting for Obama) makes sense to me is to think of it as these folks are simply liberals first and Jews second. Or, they are liberals who just happen to be Jewish.

They confuse Tikkun olam with Marxism.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
25 posted on 05/25/2011 8:41:41 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Are you saying that any Jew who does not bow down and worship “his excellency” Bibi as the perfect man is a not really a Jew?


26 posted on 05/25/2011 8:42:07 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Are you saying that any Jew who does not bow down and worship “his excellency” Bibi as the perfect man is a not really a Jew?


27 posted on 05/25/2011 8:42:07 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: KeyLargo

Growing up in the SW and early adulthood in the Midwest, the Jews that I knew were real Jews and were great people.

Then, we spent close to a decade on the East Coast following the Cuban Missile crisis. It seemed the only Jews, we ran into were whining/anti America/liberal losers.

Then, we moved to the West Coast in the 1970’s, and I got to know a couple of real Jews. I became friends with a them. One of them explained to me that the people we knew on the East Coast and would meet on the West Coast were JINOs. He despised them and said that they hated being Jews and turned that hate into hating America and what was right in America.

Since, then I have gotten to know a few other real Jews. They too have problems with the JINOs trying to represent their faith and Israel.

JINOS, CINOS and RINOS are miserable and rotten people. Their inner core is what the DNC stands for. Never trust them!


28 posted on 05/25/2011 8:42:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: wintertime
I would think that love of God ( who is the *one* and only God) and then one’s neighbor, as one’s self, would be the “first and foremost” of the Jewish identity. This principle is found in both the new and old testaments. From this would come identity with the Jewish people.

Not really, remember he's talking about "Jewish Identity." What you mention, "love of God ( who is the *one* and only God) and then one’s neighbor, as one’s self" would be what makes one a decent human being, no matter what religion. Remember, one of the most serious "punishments" that The Lord ever visited on the Jewish people was having Israel conquered, The Temple destroyed, and the people expelled from the land.

Mark

29 posted on 05/25/2011 8:45:03 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Prokopton

Judaism, to me, is a nationality - a people. A family. Converts are ‘adopted’ into the family.


30 posted on 05/25/2011 8:51:55 AM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: texaschick

Yes. It’s what happened to the Irish. They arrived as Catholics, then converted to the Democrat religion.


31 posted on 05/25/2011 8:53:33 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: Marie

You have to be careful with holocaust survivors. Many of them have ‘issues’. They tend to flip-out over anything.

For example, had a really old guy Jewish neighbor once. He’s walking up the stairs with several bags of groceries. I said, “Let me help you with that.” He starts screaming that he doesn’t want any help. Ok... I backed off and followed him up to my floor. When he gets to his door he collapsed breathing heavy and dropped the groceries everywhere. I’m asking, Are you alright? Thinking I might have to call 911. He starts yelling, GO AWAY! GO AWAY! Then he covers the groceries on the floor like a turtle, opens his door, and starts scooping them into his apartment like a dog would dig a hole. He was crawling all over the floor covering whatever groceries he found screaming GO AWAY.

That was when I realized that he thought I was trying to steal his food. That’s when I knew he had been in the holocaust. I never came near him again. Some survivors have issues and it is best to just leave them alone. They are beyond help.

I have known several survivors who blame the Jews for the holocaust. If they had been nicer or if they had done this or that, the holocaust would not have happened.
And they typically HATE Israel, Hebrew, Converts, non-Jews, and observant Jews. They prefer stealth Judaism so as to not annoy the goyim. Obviously, they pass this form of antisemitism on to their children.

That has been my life experience anyway.

So, no. I am not really surprised by any of this.


32 posted on 05/25/2011 8:54:23 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Grampa Dave
JINOS, CINOS and RINOS are miserable and rotten people

So you are now an authority on who is a Jew and who is not a Jew eh? Where did not get your rabbinical degree?

33 posted on 05/25/2011 8:56:51 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Most Jews can be found in large cities that are controlled by democrats. Many of those Jews enjoy business privileges and special perks like zoning and parking that would be swiped away if they failed to support the ruling democrats.

So the answer that is hard to understand, is actually the most easy to recognize - self interest.

I really don't think that's it... Every liberal Jew is know (including nearly every member of my family) would fall under the category of "useful idiot," partly because of a complete misunderstanding (engineered by the "puppet masters") of the Jewish concept of "Tikkun Olam," or "Heal the World." They honestly mean well, and most are very generous with their time and money, giving to charities and special projects. Most of these actually do good. For instance, every one of my retired cousins spend at least 1 day a week delivering for meals on wheels. Another is a delivery driver for the Red Cross, picking up people who need transportation but can't get to where they need to go. Every one of them volunteer at hospitals, missions, or the Salvation Army on major Christian holidays to give the regular volunteers the day off. They participate regularly in hunger drives, etc...

They do alot of good, but they believe that by voting leftist, they're doing a good thing too.

Mark

34 posted on 05/25/2011 8:59:19 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL
I will meet you halfway and say there is also that.
35 posted on 05/25/2011 9:02:37 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Obama can't see something pure like the truth without wanting to abort it.)
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To: Carl LaFong

Agreed. They will all vote for Obama again. I have never understood the attitude of the Jews. Sometimes it seems like the Christians love Israel more than the jews do. My fiancee’ is Jewish and he says its self loathing. They are all waiting for the next Holocaust. He is infuriated by it.


36 posted on 05/25/2011 9:06:09 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jessduntno

odumbo


37 posted on 05/25/2011 9:15:35 AM PDT by italianquaker (the Western faculty lounge attitude, which is the sewer that Obama has been marinated in,)
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To: wintertime
Let me advance a truly radical idea.

Christianity is a sect of Judaism. Therefor we are all Jews.

38 posted on 05/25/2011 9:17:11 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: jessduntno

Does she like anyone?

Yasser


39 posted on 05/25/2011 9:18:08 AM PDT by rwa265 (Christ my Cornerstone)
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To: Prokopton

The impression I have of most Jews, who don’t support Israel, is that they don’t believ Israel should exist because either that they thought the Diaspora was supposed to be permanent or that they only will support an Israel that can be at peace with its neighbours, even if those neighbours won’t be at peace with her.


40 posted on 05/25/2011 9:19:50 AM PDT by Jonty30
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