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Sell a few rabbits, earn $200 – Obama fines you $90,000
Radio Vice Online ^ | May 20, 2010 | Steve McGough

Posted on 05/20/2011 8:00:25 AM PDT by Steve495

That’s right. I’m putting this right at the feet of the president himself. A family in Missouri has been fined more than $90,000 by the US Department of Agriculture for selling more than $500 of the furry creatures in less than one year. The families profit was a whopping $200 for the year.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: federal; fine; government; rabbits; regulation; usda; waiver
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To: Steve495
I think if you google their names you will find rabbit meat for sell. Selling live rabbits is no more against the law than selling goats, chickens, pigs, cows, etc. A few years ago I ran into a little fellow pulling a small trailer, I ask him what he had in the trailer he said rabbits. Seems he was from new York and he had suppliers in north Carolina raising rabbits for sell in new York city. Have no idea who slaughtered them but his were alive. He said he paid five dollars a live rabbit.!
41 posted on 05/20/2011 9:03:28 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: vbmoneyspender
Look, an initial consultation with an attorney IS ORDINARILY FREE OF CHARGE.

These specialists will usually let you know the score. In this case the people contacted a lawyer who specialized in USDA (et al) and he seems to have advised them to GET OUT OF THE BUSINESS RIGHT NOW.

Which they did.

They are now getting fined for not having called that same guy earlier.

42 posted on 05/20/2011 9:04:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Because if you sell eggs to someone and your chickens carry disease you will be “intercoursed skyward”.

The laws protect the consumer. It also protects me from:

- potential lawsuits
- if the animals are lost they are tagged and can be identified
- my health since I eat them too


43 posted on 05/20/2011 9:04:45 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: The Great RJ
Why can the USDA intervene if no interstate commerce is involved?

I take it you're not familiar with Wickard v Fillburn or Gonzales v. Raich? Look them up and find your answer. Then refer to my tagline for summation.

44 posted on 05/20/2011 9:05:36 AM PDT by Huck (The Antifederalists were right.)
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To: org.whodat
Little bit of a distortion here, they were selling rabbit meat, you cannot run a slaughter house in this country without a license and a food inspector.

Actually the article says they started by selling rabbits FOR meat not the meat itself. This is not a slaughterhouse as the animals were sold live and processed elsewhere. The principal is the same as a hog producer selling to Hormel.

45 posted on 05/20/2011 9:07:22 AM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: Dead Corpse

Wickard was revisited recently, and reaffirmed. Scalia wrote a concurring opinion. Thomas wrote a scathing dissent.


46 posted on 05/20/2011 9:08:01 AM PDT by Huck (The Antifederalists were right.)
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To: Peter from Rutland
“The laws protect the consumer. It also protects me from:

- potential lawsuits
- if the animals are lost they are tagged and can be identified
- my health since I eat them too

Yeah I understand all of that logic.
But my point is that we have gotten so used to the government giving us “permission” to do activities like this; we just can't think of a world any differently which is wrong.

How about you and people like you do what is right for food safety because it is the right thing to do?
And if someone does get sick; they can come after you.

And you can choose to do whatever inspections you want to. Not because a govt agency tells you to.

47 posted on 05/20/2011 9:08:34 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Those who endured Valley Forge didn't make their sacrifice to give us free health care)
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To: Iron Munro
It has been well said that really up-to-date liberals do not care what
people do, as long as it is compulsory.
-- George Will

Gov. Mike Dukakis, who was the Donk candidate against GHWB, was known in his home state of Massachusetts as Mandatory Mike. Liberalism is primarily about government power, which is to say, compulsion.

48 posted on 05/20/2011 9:18:01 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: muawiyah
Their headquarters has at least one murder a year.

Is that called going ag?

49 posted on 05/20/2011 9:21:54 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Cowman
Apparently the government disagree with what you say they were doing, and since they agreed it is a moot case. I believe the old advertisement I found was for frozen rabbit meat.
50 posted on 05/20/2011 9:24:21 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Venturer

True they must be receiving ordres from the WH.


51 posted on 05/20/2011 9:24:27 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Peter from Rutland
Really? Have you read the recent report that meat in supermarkets is laced with E. Coli and other bacteria? The USDA is another useless agency that enslaves us. Buy organic from a reputable farmer and you will be fine - without the multi-billion dollar bureaucracy.
52 posted on 05/20/2011 9:27:40 AM PDT by majormaturity
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To: muawiyah

You worked for the post office for 38 years. You have about as much connection to the private sector as Obama does. You’ve never run a small business and I am pretty sure you weren’t running a law practice on the side while you working for the post office. So spare me the advice about consulting with attorneys whenever you have the federal gov’t sticking its nose into every nook and cranny of one’s business.


53 posted on 05/20/2011 9:29:15 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: majormaturity

I do buy from a local farmer.


54 posted on 05/20/2011 9:38:31 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: FourPeas

I know that hindsight is 20-20 but the best thing the Dollarhites could have done after the inspector left was to “close” the busines (Dollarvalue Rabbitry) and then re-open after a time using a different name and then incorporating. I believe that would have shielded them from their current dilemma.


55 posted on 05/20/2011 9:52:12 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A "Moderate Muslim"? Nothing more than a Muslim Extremist who has run out of ammo.)
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To: org.whodat
you cannot run a slaughter house in this country without a license and a food inspector.

if we had a Republic as founded, the market-place would handle this just fine. Anyone who accepts that "licensing" is the only solution doesn't truly understand Freedom. Market solutions will always be superior to anything government bureaucrats can create and manage.

Government licensing is another evil that makes people think "government is there to protect us."

Milton Friedman addresses the destructive nature of licensing in many of his writings.

56 posted on 05/20/2011 9:53:05 AM PDT by sand88
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To: Huck
Yippy. :-|

Getting really damn tired of this crap.

57 posted on 05/20/2011 9:55:31 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: sand88

Licensing has the effect, if not the purpose, of keeping out the competition from established businesses. This is actually detrimental to the safety and cost efficiency for the consumer.


58 posted on 05/20/2011 9:56:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: sand88

Sorry, but it does not seem that the majority of america agrees with you.


59 posted on 05/20/2011 9:58:31 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Steve495

Cruel and unusualo punishment comes to mind...excessive fine by 150 times..


60 posted on 05/20/2011 10:08:57 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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