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Sell a few rabbits, earn $200 – Obama fines you $90,000
Radio Vice Online ^ | May 20, 2010 | Steve McGough

Posted on 05/20/2011 8:00:25 AM PDT by Steve495

That’s right. I’m putting this right at the feet of the president himself. A family in Missouri has been fined more than $90,000 by the US Department of Agriculture for selling more than $500 of the furry creatures in less than one year. The families profit was a whopping $200 for the year.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: federal; fine; government; rabbits; regulation; usda; waiver
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To: Steve495
The whole story at Big Government is worth reading.

The government admits wanting to make an example of them.

21 posted on 05/20/2011 8:35:22 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: muawiyah

I’m willing to bet a few dollars the family never received any sort of official notice that informed them they needed a license. If it was “multiple times” the USDA would send out letters certified mail and the USDA would be able to prove they were received.

The fine notice was sent certified. If the others were sent certified - as they should have been - I don’t think the family would publicly say they were never told what they were doing wrong.


22 posted on 05/20/2011 8:36:34 AM PDT by Steve495
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To: The Great RJ

Little bit of a distortion here, they were selling rabbit meat, you cannot run a slaughter house in this country without a license and a food inspector.


23 posted on 05/20/2011 8:37:41 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Steve495

Don’t sell animals for food unless they are inspected and tagged by the state/USDA.

My chickens were inspected, tested and tagged. Nice and legal. No fines, no nothing. Granted, I sell the eggs not the meat.


24 posted on 05/20/2011 8:38:42 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: Rebelbase
During the Reagan era, Michael Moore did the movie "Roger & Me". One of the most hard hitting scenes was on the woman who raised rabbits in her back yard and sold them for $5 dressed out. She would club it over the head, gut it, and skin it. It was to define the hardship of croney capitalism and how it is so cruel to the "people".

Oh my, how history repeats itself. The film was released in 1989, but was filmed in 87/88.

25 posted on 05/20/2011 8:42:07 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: MrB

That is a case LONG overdue for a revisit.


26 posted on 05/20/2011 8:43:49 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: Steve495
They were not sent a "notice" of the sort you are thinking about ~ more like an "advisory statement", with the presumption being the guy on the other end knows all about this.

We also sent Final Agency Notice via certified mail.

From that point on if you still had a complaint, you had to go to court.

Fur Shur some were smart enough to know to get a lawyer and he'd immediately send in a letter for "a reconsideration" ~ which was rarely given.

When you get something from some of these federales you probably ought to call a lawyer who specializes in that agency.

27 posted on 05/20/2011 8:45:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
When you get something from some of these federales you probably ought to call a lawyer who specializes in that agency.

As sure a sign we are dealing with too much bureaucracy as anything else I could think of.

28 posted on 05/20/2011 8:48:18 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: Steve495

Things must be real slow at Department of Agriculture.


29 posted on 05/20/2011 8:49:09 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Steve495

Outrageous.


30 posted on 05/20/2011 8:49:59 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (GOP mantra: 'Repeal and replace.' Translation? 'We can do socialism better than the Democrats.')
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To: MrB

And the Kulaks are saying, from their graves, “we told you so!”


31 posted on 05/20/2011 8:51:44 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: org.whodat

Can you provide a link that shows they were running a slaughter house? Big Government indicates they were - at the beginning - selling some rabbits for meat, not slaughtering them. Is there a difference between selling for meat and selling meat?

They started this venture more than six years ago, and the official notice from the USDA does not mention selling meat, and only mentions violations starting four years ago. Were they selling rabbit meat or rabbits for meat prior to April 2008?


32 posted on 05/20/2011 8:53:19 AM PDT by Steve495
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To: Vaduz

Wasn’t it just last month they spent a year investigating an Amish guy who sold milk?


33 posted on 05/20/2011 8:55:37 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Peter from Rutland
“Don’t sell animals for food unless they are inspected and tagged by the state/USDA.”

Why???
Do people not ask why anymore? Why do we need to have the government's permission to do everything?
Did Founders of our nation intend (and fight an die) that we needed a government bureaucracy to give permission to sell a handful of chickens or rabbits to a neighbor?

Why?????

34 posted on 05/20/2011 8:56:39 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Those who endured Valley Forge didn't make their sacrifice to give us free health care)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

In the end, everyone who had their own food was a Kulak.


35 posted on 05/20/2011 8:57:02 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Dead Corpse
When you get something from some of these federales you probably ought to call a lawyer who specializes in that agency.

I just shake my head when I read some of what is written on FR. Some posters (who almost certainly have never run a business in their entire life) apparently think that small business people have money machines at their disposal which they are able to use whenever they want to to pay other people to act as go-betweens with the federal gov't.

36 posted on 05/20/2011 8:58:17 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: HereInTheHeartland
I almost want to go out and get one the hippie bumper stickers from the 1960’s that says “Question Authority”
37 posted on 05/20/2011 8:59:27 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Those who endured Valley Forge didn't make their sacrifice to give us free health care)
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To: muawiyah

“We also sent Final Agency Notice via certified mail.”

So are you part of the agency that can’t seem to use their brains in a situation like this? This is another example of zero tolerance BS.

There is no excuse for demanding $90,000 from this family, government over-bearing regulation and stupidity.


38 posted on 05/20/2011 9:00:02 AM PDT by Steve495
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To: FourPeas
One bulldyke at a field office ~ there's always somebody like that.

Even straight women can be a problem ~ we had one who you'd see sometimes sitting there watching her watch waiting for the big hand to swing past the 12 so that she could DENY an appeal for not having been filed within the time limit.

Not all the employees are like that ~ frequently the good guys put stumbling blocks in the way of the jerks just to make sure abuse does not happen.

Sounds like USDA had a critical senior employee retire suddenly which left the idiots in charge of things.

Bet they redesigned the billing document (which seems to be of local, not national, design) first thing so they could have some giggles.

"Yeah, let's put the $3 million on bedbug letter #13 ~ that'll make 'em stand up straight"

39 posted on 05/20/2011 9:00:28 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Steve495
You should read my background sheet to see who I mean by "we" ~ and "we" in this case is NOT USDA.

They were down the street. Their headquarters has at least one murder a year. Our headquarters building never had a murder ~ ever ~ but theirs does one a year. It's dysfunctional and should be seriously reorganized.

40 posted on 05/20/2011 9:02:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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