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W.H. warns of debt 'calamity'
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Posted on 05/18/2011 4:08:25 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver

obama is the “calamity”, the debt is the results!


21 posted on 05/18/2011 4:56:56 PM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: Sub-Driver
This is just a LIE!

Failure to raise the debt ceiling IN NO WAY means default. Current revenues are sufficient to pay the interest payments on the debt.

Obama & Co., including many Pubs, just want to spend more money & incur more debt w/o cutting anything from current spending. They can't stand the idea of an approaching election with no money to hand out to buy support. It is as simple as that.

If we raise the ceiling now, we will face an even bigger problem when we reach the new ceiling in a year or so.

It is foolish to raise the ceiling w/o some serious plan to reduce both the deficit & the debt. Since Congress has no plan & shows no inclination to cut spending, the debt ceiling is the ONLY impediment to their irresponsibility.

Any Congressman or Senator who votes to raise the debt ceiling is no patriot. They are voting to put this country in further peril & closer to REAL default.

22 posted on 05/18/2011 4:57:27 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: cripplecreek
I find it very interesting that both major depressions have occurred after a Democrat replaced a Republican President.

I also find it interesting that the “Great Depression of 1932” resulted in the Federal Government defaulting on it debts.
The Feds needed more gold so they told the holders of American War Bonds (WWI) that they could no longer be redeemed for gold. A Supreme Court case that followed said, on a 5-4 vote, that Congress shouldn't be hampered in the way it ran the nation; so, adhering to established Federal Laws dealing with currency control wasn't required.

The “Great Depression of 2011” is still unfolding but the Federal Government is going to “delay” (aka a short term default) in playing its retirement obligations to their ex-employees. Plus if half the rumors come true there will be no more private IRAs because they will be converted to Federal Retirement Bonds.

Ever wonder why the extreme depressions seem to happen only when Democrats control everything?

23 posted on 05/18/2011 5:00:45 PM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh, like it was SO urgent, of paramount galactic importance that Bush sign away OUR money to bail out the banks, or calamity would result?

Or that we desperately needed thousands of coders to thwart the y2k bug otherwise the sky would FALL!

I don’t believe anything any WH admin says anymore, regardless of who resides therein. They are all CHUMPS.


24 posted on 05/18/2011 5:01:19 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Sub-Driver

OK. So let’s say we take obama at his word and the government will default.

And this would be a bad thing?

I guess the most immediate problem would be that no one would lend the USG additional money.

And this would be a bad thing?

And the government would have to spend no more than it took in.

And this would be a bad thing?

And the communist chinese and saudi arabia would be caught out with a lot of our devalued debt.

And this would be a bad thing?

And our political leadership, such as it is, would be forced to the consequences of it’s financial profligacy instead of pushing the problem onto future generations.

And this would be a bad thing?


25 posted on 05/18/2011 5:06:52 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Conservatives are the battered wives of American politics.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Right....there’s no “plan”...uh huh

Whatever...this to me, is just more fear mongering. It’s ESSENTIAL, an EMERGENCY, it’ll be a CATASTROPHE, if we DON’T raise the debt ceiling. The world will collapse, the federal government will shut down.

We can’t have that happen now can we? We MUST trust this government on what they say, and take their word. If they say it’s an emergency and there’s no other way, they have no plan, we HAVE to raise that debt ceiling and let them continue spending. /sarc

PFFFFFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


26 posted on 05/18/2011 5:09:11 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Jobs? Nope! Economy? Nope! Disarm the U.S? Yep! Impeach the treasonous Marxist Muslim usurper bast)
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To: Sub-Driver
“There is no plan that can preserve our credit rating,”

Sure there is. Radically cut spending by 2.5 *TRILLION* dollars per year for the next 50 years.

In point of fact, that's the ONLY plan on Planet Earth that "can preserve our credit rating."

There is NOTHING else that will do it.

27 posted on 05/18/2011 5:16:23 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spineless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks Sub-Driver.
...an administration official warned that there is no “secret plan” that would kick in if the government runs out of borrowing power.
There's no need for a secret plan -- the only solution available is the repeal of Obamacare.


28 posted on 05/18/2011 5:21:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Soothesayer9
Or that we desperately needed thousands of coders to thwart the y2k bug otherwise the sky would FALL!

Actually... it was because people saw, years ahead of time, that there was a potential problem that the programmers were able to avert the problem. All the Y2K doom-and-gloom scenarios would only have been plausible had those programmers NOT been busy. My husband worked as a contractor at the time--he updated many computer systems at major companies to avoid that problem.

What we're dealing with now is completely different. We're being told that we face disaster if the politicians don't continue the same bad policies that made this situation so bad in the first place.

29 posted on 05/18/2011 5:24:28 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Nip
...if half the rumors come true there will be no more private IRAs because they will be converted to Federal Retirement Bonds.

I think these Marxists are headed in that direction. I also think if they did that, millions of Americans would suddenly get real ticked off in a big way.
30 posted on 05/18/2011 5:25:29 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Sub-Driver
The ‘irreversibility” part is a mathematical certainty, regardless of what these jack-wagons wish or want.
31 posted on 05/18/2011 5:29:00 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: Sub-Driver

Translation -

“We’ve gotten ourselves in so piteously deep that we have no earthly idea how to get out of this hole we’ve dug.”


32 posted on 05/18/2011 5:34:14 PM PDT by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: Lurker

The fact that there is no Plan B showcases the utter incompetence of this entire Administration.

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I wish it was mere incompetence. These jerks know exactly what they are doing, and their plan to bring down the US by destroying our economy is working out just the way they had hoped.


33 posted on 05/18/2011 5:48:44 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: Sub-Driver

Fear tactics, as par from this idiot-ridden administration and liberal democrats, in general.

Personally, I want to see this predicted debt “calamity”......bring these frakin’ idiots back down to Earth quickly. Hell, if I am lucky, maybe tar and feathering will be back en vogue by then.... =.=


34 posted on 05/18/2011 5:57:56 PM PDT by cranked
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To: All; Sub-Driver
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), March 20, 2006.

35 posted on 05/18/2011 6:06:44 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama will be president until 2017.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Why does this mental picture appear in my mind?

36 posted on 05/18/2011 6:22:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (How do you starve an Obama supporter? Hide his food stamps under his work boots.)
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To: Sub-Driver

He doesn’t even have a plan? This one is pretty easy. He can’t spend money he doesn’t have, so, absent any direction from congress, the executive can pretty much decide what they want to stop spending money on.

He’d be a fool to stop paying interest on the debt. He has his people out saying how disastrous that would be, so it wouldn’t make sense to do the disastrous thing.

My fear is that he’ll cut things the country really needs, like military spending, in order to make the pain fall on republican voters, and still fund his pet projects.

This is the reason I oppose letting the debt ceiling stand with no action — not because I think we should raise it, but because if we don’t, and with Obama having spending authority, conservatives will be screwed. I figure all the things we like get stop-work orders.

If Obama was really gutsy, he would order an increase in withholding taxes. They don’t count as borrowing, it would hurt people more the more money they make, and he’d be able to keep spending, while it would look like the government was taking in higher revenues.

By next year, he’d find another way to blame us when the huge tax refunds came due.


37 posted on 05/18/2011 7:25:55 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Sub-Driver

Who’s fault is this?


38 posted on 05/18/2011 7:28:13 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Muslims are a people of love, peace, and goodwill, and if you say that they aren't, they'll kill you)
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To: SOMEONE; anyone

Do i keep my money in life ins. annuities, IRAs, or savings accts...?


39 posted on 05/18/2011 7:58:26 PM PDT by merryberry
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To: merryberry

life ins if the policy is correct and gives you the payoff at 70. Many during the 80’s were written this way.


40 posted on 05/18/2011 8:09:51 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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