Posted on 05/17/2011 9:03:10 PM PDT by PROCON
WASHINGTON (AP) - Researchers commissioned by the nation's Roman Catholic bishops to analyze the pattern of clergy sex abuse over decades have concluded that homosexuality, celibacy and an all-male priesthood did not cause the scandal. The report from the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York said about 44 percent of the known abuse cases involved priests who were ordained in the 1940s and 1950s, at a time when seminaries did not properly train them to live a celibate life. These men were not equipped to withstand the social upheaval of the 1960s, which was a time of an increase in sexual deviancy and a spike in crime in society at large, the authors said.
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That is the most precise, well-thought out reason I have ever heard!
Thanks!
I’ve got an idea, no forcing men into the priesthood any more! Only volunteers who want to be celibate! And no homos! Problem solved.
Who you hang out with does not have any bearing on ones sexuality. It is who you want to jump into the sack with that does.
Aw shucks, it just came to me in a flash of insight. ///
Extremely stupid study that tries to obscure the homosexuality—man/boy —connection. It is obvious by the numbers and obvious through history that homosexuality is rampant with pederasty. It is a learned behavior...most of the abusers were molested as boys by men. That is the only study that would prove anything.....that homosexuality is learned and the compulsion to perpetuate the behavior is because of childhood abuse that is so ingrained that the obsession for the reoccurrence of those sexual thrills are really too hard to repress. It is unnatural.
The Catholic Church needs to connect the dots....how many of those priests were molested by men when they were boys. I read where lots of them were victims when they were boys. Homosexuals want people to think it is a “natural” behavior that is “genetic”. Rubbish!!!!!! It is a learned behavior and homosexuals want to molest boys, as well as young men.
It is why boys in Afghanistan can’t wait to have their stable of boys to sodomize. It is learned...just like in Ancient Greece. Study Aristotle.....habituation.....it is not that hard to comprehend. It is a behavior and because it is sexual arousal brought up in childhood—it is ingrained and hard to fight. It is why NAMBLA’s motto is—if not by eight, then it is too late.
It is why the Cultural Marxist want sex ed in Kindergarten and elementary schools...to condition and brainwash children into thinking the unnatural is natural. Then the thought of homosexual acts will be considered icky by normally raised children and they won’t be willing to experiment in that lifestyle. It is all about making the unnatural natural.
The Christian worldview prevented homosexuality from being mainstreamed in Western Civilization after it got rid of the pagan worldview which was rampant with homosexuality and pederasty and all unnatural sexual acts and slavery and women as second class citizens or worse.
Better idea. Let priests marry (a women) like a normal guy.
You’re confusing the two.
There is no proof homosexuality is biological in origin. If that were true, there would be no switching from homosexuality to heterosexuality (and vice versa).
It appears that human sexuality is very flexible, and that instead of the “I was born this way” it is “I can’t help that I feel this way”. In other words, a personality disorder.
And we both know WHO gave you those words, don't we..:=)
I’ve got an idea. Don’t become a priest if you don’t want to be celibate.
Some people have a vocation for celibacy. Human beings have free will and are meant to use control over their senses and not run after every single object that they happen to desire. If you don’t want to become a celibate priest or monk, no one is forcing you. And no one is forcing the men who join the priesthood or monasteries, or women who become nuns.
It’s a voluntary austerity they take to serve God. And it is common in other religions as well, as a way to sacrifice for God. If others want to do it, why do you object? It’s all voluntary.
Exactly. Did the study look at how many of the offending priests classified themselves as homosexual? Doubt it. People get too hung up on the word "pedophile", which is prepubescent children (male or female) and for which the offenders can be gay or straight. But the victims here are older, and those offenders are referred to as "pederasts". The victims are almost exclusively boys, and the offenders are almost 100% homosexual. That's the dirty secret no one wants to talk about.
The article is covers this up by saying that homosexuality is not a cause. Homosexuality is different from pederasty, as pederasty is a sub-set of homosexual behavior. So, technically correct, but a damnable lie all the same.
Or morally tough. I know a lot of priests, and they include the best men I know. Basically, if you're not giving anything up if you swear off women, they don't want you at most seminaries today. Certainly didn't seem to be the case in the 1970s, but the landscape has changed.
Young priests today are very conservative, very self-disciplined, and they are the future. Many of the older ones hate this about them. (TS.)
I never stated what the origin of homosexuality is. I have no idea to be honest. I just use the old Dice Clay definition. You either do or you don’t (I cleaned it up a bit). In my own case, one look at Barbara Eden on “I Dream of Jeannie” when very young, I knew which side I wanted to be on.
I hadn’t noticed AP, but you’re right about that outfit!
Look at how many women become lesbians later in life. Too many times screwed over by men is always the story. But this phenomena is never mentioned when discussing male homosexual behavior, for obvious reasons.
Yes but you are a woman..quite a different celibate animal than a man
And not capable of the same level of pederasty as a rule if you fall
I doubt it, too. Why ask the direct question when it's so much fun to avoid the issue?
Thank you very mch for your detailed explanation and your PREFECT© conclusion:
The victims are almost exclusively boys, and the offenders are almost 100% homosexual. That's the dirty secret no one wants to talk about.
The article is covers this up by saying that homosexuality is not a cause. Homosexuality is different from pederasty, as pederasty is a sub-set of homosexual behavior. So, technically correct, but a damnable lie all the same.
LOL!
And you would know how.....
Why do I object. Personally it doesn’t effect me. I’m not Catholic. I am looking at it from a systems point of view. The way it is set up will lead to abuses. It is a symbiosis of celibacy colliding with homosexuality. Do not put your head in the sand, believe me a large segment of the American public equate Catholic priests and pedophiles together. Be honest, how many jokes have you heard like that. Many if your are honest. The jokes would not be funny unless there was some truth to them.
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