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Sheriff blames cheese for false drug test that led to arrest
Charlotte Observer ^ | 05-17-2011 | Staff

Posted on 05/17/2011 5:32:39 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

Hmmm been here 25 years an doesn’t speak or understand English ?


21 posted on 05/17/2011 6:30:13 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Now they just bring out fido to do an open air search around your vehicle then perform a false alert trick to counter all you said.
Probable cause clause closed an they strip your ride in an aggressive manner. If they find nothing your vehicle is still trashed you lose. If they are really pissed they salt the mine an drop a wee bit of contraband or said ham sandwich weapon as they search.

Drug interdiction has replaced traffic fine revenue work. Property seizure incidental to the crime is income for said municipalities.

I counter with seatbelt, cruise control an well maintained vehicle to avoid such pricks in the first place.


22 posted on 05/17/2011 6:43:08 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Tupelo
Since Mr Hernandez did absolutely nothing wrong...

You either have no idea what you are talking about and yet are unable to realize it or else you are deliberately posting lies.

23 posted on 05/17/2011 6:43:40 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Squantos
Hmmm been here 25 years an doesn’t speak or understand English ?

He's from Kalifornia. It was unnecessary...............

24 posted on 05/17/2011 6:43:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven............)
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To: Red Badger
He attempted to leave the scene when the officer pulled up.............

Is this an etiquette thing? Like a British State dinner, noöne can leave the table until the Royal guest does. So if you are anywhere and a cop shows up, you're fixed there until he leaves?

25 posted on 05/17/2011 6:45:50 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: krb
They guy wasn't doing anything wrong. Hell, he wasn't doing anything even remotely interesting.

You either have no idea what you are talking about and yet are unable to realize it or else you are deliberately posting lies.

26 posted on 05/17/2011 6:47:03 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Oztrich Boy
So if you are anywhere and a cop shows up, you're fixed there until he leaves?

Help me out here. Are you trolling or are you really so stupid as to think it illegitimate for police officers to temporarily detain motorists while investigating their illegal actions on public roadways?

27 posted on 05/17/2011 6:51:48 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Red Badger

Good point....lol !


28 posted on 05/17/2011 6:53:09 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: tacticalogic
According to the report, when the officers first pulled up, he talked with them, and told them he was lost, and needed directions...

Do you have a link for this "report"?

29 posted on 05/17/2011 6:54:49 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Do you have a list of the illegal actions that were being investigated?


30 posted on 05/17/2011 6:58:15 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Red Badger

The sheriff got in between moochie and her tamale mix.


31 posted on 05/17/2011 7:01:49 AM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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To: Red Badger
A deputy approached, and Hernandez thought the officer wanted him to move and drove away with his hazard lights on

OK, so I wasn't there.

But, it sounds to me like the person here needs to learn to speak English a little better.

And, FWIW, the I-85 (and I-40, to a lesser extent) corridors are major drug trafficking highways. Major busts, all of the time. The deputy wasn't making a huge stretch (Latino, on a major drug corridor, appears to flee, carrying a large amount of an unknown substance that tests positive for drugs) ... I think that this particular one needs to be looked at as an opportunity for improvment of procedures, but little more than that.

32 posted on 05/17/2011 7:05:14 AM PDT by wbill
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To: tacticalogic
Do you have a list of the illegal actions that were being investigated?

If you want to learn about this case then Google is your friend.

You specifically mentioned a "report" and described its contents.

Are you now admitting that this was a lie?

33 posted on 05/17/2011 7:12:38 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Red Badger
A portable kit used by deputies changed colors, indicating the mixture was illegal drugs.

I had no idea cops were trained analytical chemists!

Those guys are SOOOO smart.

</sarcasm>

34 posted on 05/17/2011 7:15:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islamophobia: The fear of offending Muslims because they are prone to violence.)
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To: wbill
I think that this particular one needs to be looked at as an opportunity for improvment of procedures, but little more than that.

I agree. Based on previous articles regarding this case everything about it seemed good up until the false positive from the field test of the seized substance. But so long as the test was administered correctly this is not officer misconduct either. They are given testing equipment and procedures and a certain result indicates a specific course of action (arrest and lab tests) which they then undertook. The cops had previously said they would investigate the test itself and now we have this report saying that they are doing so. I see no problem here.

People who falsely accuse cops of misconduct are not promoting liberty. If false accusations against police promoted liberty then leftists would not constantly be pushing bogus accusations against the police.

35 posted on 05/17/2011 7:22:24 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
It was from memory, according to one of the various articles that have been posted about this in the past few days.

So far the only thing the guy appears guilty of is having something that produced a false positive on whatever field drug test they were using. It cost him 4 days of vacation, a set of tires, and 4 days of impound fees for his truck.

He's apparently a legal immigrant who has a real job, and that was probably a pretty steep hit for the guy. He got a raw deal.

36 posted on 05/17/2011 7:24:48 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What are you complaining about here?

Should the cops not have field tests for suspected drugs?

Should they haul in everyone who is found possessing an unidentified substance?

The reason that leftists use sarcasm so much is that it so rarely leads to truth. I think that if you get in the habit of expressing your ideas in a straightforward manner then you will end up saying fewer irrational and false things, assuming that this is what you want.


37 posted on 05/17/2011 7:27:02 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Red Badger
An enzyme found in cheese triggered false drug test

What kind of cheese was it? Cheese and Chong?

38 posted on 05/17/2011 7:30:17 AM PDT by techcor (I hope Obama succeeds, in being a one term president.)
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To: rogue yam
What are you complaining about here?

As a degreed analytical chemist with 25 years in the pharmaceutical industry, I know that tests like this one are screening tests, and not definitive in any way.

To use them as definitive tests is unprofessional, ignorant and, hopefully, grounds for a lucrative lawsuit.

Any questions?

39 posted on 05/17/2011 7:31:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islamophobia: The fear of offending Muslims because they are prone to violence.)
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To: techcor

Nacho cheese...............


40 posted on 05/17/2011 7:32:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven............)
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