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No Right to Resist Unlawful Police Entry: Indiana Supremes
Outside the Beltway ^ | May 14, 2011 | James Joyner

Posted on 05/15/2011 8:17:50 AM PDT by KeyLargo

Outside the Beltway

No Right to Resist Unlawful Police Entry: Indiana Supremes

James Joyner May 14, 2011

For as long as the notion of individual rights has existed, one of them has been the notion that one’s home is sacrosanct. As of Thursday, that’s no longer true in Indiana.

AP (“Court: No right to resist unlawful police entry“):

People have no right to resist if police officers illegally enter their home, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled in a decision that overturns centuries of common law.

The court issued its 3-2 ruling on Thursday, contending that allowing residents to resist officers who enter their homes without any right would increase the risk of violent confrontation. If police enter a home illegally, the courts are the proper place to protest it, Justice Steven David said. “We believe … a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence,” David said....

Justices Robert Rucker and Brent Dickson strongly dissented, saying the ruling runs afoul of the U.S. Constitution’s Fourth Amendment against unreasonable search and seizure, The Times of Munster reported. “In my view the majority sweeps with far too broad a brush by essentially telling Indiana citizens that government agents may now enter their homes illegally — that is, without the necessity of a warrant, consent or exigent circumstances,” Rucker said.

Both dissenting justices suggested they would have supported the ruling if the court had limited its scope to stripping the right to resist officers who enter homes illegally in cases where they suspect domestic violence is being committed. But Dickson said, “The wholesale abrogation of the historic right of a person to reasonably resist unlawful police entry into his dwelling is unwarranted and unnecessarily broad.”

(Excerpt) Read more at outsidethebeltway.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: abuse; entry; police; unlawful
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1 posted on 05/15/2011 8:17:54 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

A man’s home is The State’s castle.


2 posted on 05/15/2011 8:21:27 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: KeyLargo
I wonder what those on the court would say if an ILLEGAL entry into THEIR home happened?

YOu can bet they would be singing a different tune.

3 posted on 05/15/2011 8:25:05 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: KeyLargo

Mitch Daniels, Governor of Indiana, by not directing his State Attorney General and Prosecutors to drop this case and moot the appeal, has demonstrated through his direct and proximate actions that he is not qualified to run for President of the United States but probably will anyway....if his wife lets him.


4 posted on 05/15/2011 8:25:52 AM PDT by yadent
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To: coloradan

And if you try to defend it thinking it belongs to you, you will be shot at least 70 times.


5 posted on 05/15/2011 8:26:23 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: KeyLargo
allowing residents to resist officers who enter their homes without any right would increase the risk of violent confrontation

I contend that police who enter homes without any right increase the risk of violent confrontation.

6 posted on 05/15/2011 8:26:25 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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To: pennboricua
And if you try to defend it thinking it belongs to you, you will be shot at least 70 times.

...and no paramedic will be allowed anywhere near you until "the area is secure".

7 posted on 05/15/2011 8:28:47 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 844 of our national holiday from reality. - OBL Dead? The TSA can go away!)
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To: KeyLargo

Just more proof that the Democrat Party is out to destroy the U.S. Constitution by re-interpreting what the Founders wrote and meant. They have no problem with this as they see the government as the solution and the be-all, end-all of everything. They worship at the altar of big government, the fountainhaed of all (their) power. It is their god.


8 posted on 05/15/2011 8:31:03 AM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
I contend that police who enter homes without any right increase the risk of violent confrontation.

Agents of the State are incapable of error, the sooner you learn and internalize this fact, the better.

9 posted on 05/15/2011 8:31:05 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 844 of our national holiday from reality. - OBL Dead? The TSA can go away!)
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To: KeyLargo

I was going to blame the usual suspects (i.e., Democrat-appointed judges), but it appears that the hero to many here, a Mr. Mitch Daniels, put the key judge on the court that ruled this way.

Given this and about 20 other items, it looks like Mr. Daniels is going to take the McCain Path to the Republican nomination (i.e., media darling, with Medved support).


10 posted on 05/15/2011 8:31:17 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts))
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To: KeyLargo

Ah, ‘Modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence’. Apparently, the Fourth Amendment means exactly the opposite of what it says.


11 posted on 05/15/2011 8:32:05 AM PDT by servantoftheservant
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13 posted on 05/15/2011 8:32:56 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Indiana is a good place not to live and I’ve had that figured before this one came up. Two other data points would include the David Camm case and the question of a feminist judge putting Mike Tyson in prison for “raping” a girl who’d walked into his hotel room of her own volition at 2 AM in the morning. The Camm case is a total abomination and one which Freepers shold be aware of. It rivals the Duke Lax case.


14 posted on 05/15/2011 8:34:49 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Right Wing Assault

“UPDATE 2: See some interesting discussion in the comments below. To clarify my position on what the law should be here: Police officers entering one’s home without a warrant should be regarded exactly as any other intruder under similar circumstances. So, in the circumstances that led to this case, the homeowner was justified in treating the officer precisely as he would a pushy salesman attempting to enter his home after being denied permission. That means mild physical force, certainly to include pushing, but obviously not lethal force.

Regardless of law, however, there is such a thing as prudence. An assailant, whether he’s a police officer or a stranger, brandishing a weapon should obviously be treated differently than someone presumed not to be armed. And, as a practical matter, police officers have a long history of issuing trumped up charges, lying about what happened, and getting other officers to lie in corroboration. Resisting the police, regardless of whether one is fully in the right, is not likely to end well.”

James Joyner

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/no-right-to-resist-unlawful-police-entry/


15 posted on 05/15/2011 8:38:19 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

I believe this one will be headed for SCOTUS.


16 posted on 05/15/2011 8:40:26 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: KeyLargo

In principle, the judges aren’t taking into careful consideration of the trust that individuals have in the state not to abuse its power.

If the citizenry cannot trust the state to not abuse its power, they cannot trust the state, period. This is only going to contribute to anarchy.


17 posted on 05/15/2011 8:42:35 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: wendy1946

Visit the justices office or home, super-glue a gun in their hand, and dial up a 911 call referncing a baracaded depressed white male who refuses to let anyone thru the door. That aughta do it.


18 posted on 05/15/2011 8:48:49 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: KeyLargo
Indiana changed the way it chooses Supreme Court judges. Instead of electing judges, the State now appoints judges from a list prepared by establishment, liberal lawyers.
This is same system that produced the Iowa Supreme Court verdict on marriage. And, it is the same system that is being promoted nationally — and very quietly — by the Soros organizations.
19 posted on 05/15/2011 8:51:04 AM PDT by Oak Grove
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To: KeyLargo
a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence

Bizarro world.
20 posted on 05/15/2011 8:51:56 AM PDT by andyk (Wealth != Income)
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