Posted on 05/13/2011 1:59:10 PM PDT by nandrew
...Money managers now expect interest rates to increase as the Fed has to deal with the inflation from increasing food and energy prices that are not in the CPI. And money managers expect taxes to be increased to pay for government programs, which will suck money out of the economy.
What will increased interest rates and taxes do to home values, to stock values, to bond values and to jobs? They will all fall.
George Soros, bankers, insurance companies and Wall Street who all gave lots of money to Obama, will all make lots of money again by selling assets "short" and by consolidating cash.
Small investors are about to get eaten by the sharks again, like in 2009. Can you afford any more of Obama?
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the votes are not in the House to raise taxes.
Both of these actions will hurt those who worked hard and saved. These actions destroy savings that are used for fixed incomes and savings in home equities.
Obama is doing it deliberately.
What else is new?
There’s no mystery to what the Soros funds are investing in.
And no prohibition on individuals doing the same thing.
So anybody who thinks George is always a slam dunk winner can follow in his investment footsteps (albeit on a smaller scale).
They need to increase interest rates to cool down an overheated housing market.
Wait, I’ve returned to the wrong year. I was supposed to go back to 2005, not 2011!!
It’s called the Downward Spiral of Socialism.
Pretty soon, we’ll be stabding in line for our allotment of sausage and wearing out our cardboard shoes.
Thank you, Mr. President.
You posted Rev 18:4 as part of your name. It is so very appropriate for this time in USA history: “Come out of her my people lest you take part in her sins, lest you take part in her plagues.”
Does America understand how evil is in command of our country? And the consequences?
You can’t follow Soros’ timing and you cannot act on his insider information and you cannot duplicate his group of hedge funds which have the ability to move the markets. We only find out what he/they are doing after they have done it.
The information is released at the right time to get the me-toos to pile in, then the big boys start to sell before there is any real appreciation for the late-comers to harvest. Menwhile, Soros and company has had months to accumulate these assets, which are also global, at the lower prices. No way someone who can only afford mutual funds can benefit. Forex and other commodity trades take a lot of money and the moves, up and down, are huge, way too big for an average investor.
I have a relative who has worked for a couple of major hedge funds, although in executive IT support, not as a trader. He was vested in 2006. His final project before retirement was coordinating the global conference calls between Quantum and all the other funds. He knew how things worked and he was there at ground zero. He still lost 90% of everything,including his *hedge* in Lehman. At 58, he is now grateful to have his old job back at less than 50% of what he made before 2008, after killing himself working as a consultant 24/7 for a hyper 26-year-old, making about 75% of what he made prior to 2008. He was given the choice of being terminated as a consultant or taking the full-time position for much less.
This is not even mentioning that the way the vesting works for these funds is that everything is invested in the fund, you get a modest premium on the up side and agree to a huge risk on the downside.
These guys _are_ sharks. Even becoming one of their remoras isn’t much of an advantage.
Pretty soon, we’ll be standing in line for our allotment of Soylent Green and wearing out our cardboard shoes.
There...fixed it for you....
(Sausage will be a dim memory)
They can all eat me!
Amusingly ill-timed post considering Post 10 above you! ;)
Hopefully the Canucks will take them out.
I appreciate your input but I think the informed small investor today has the advantage of being able to move “fast and light” like the Navy Seals. IMHO the age of the internet has made “insider information” a thing of the past. There is transparency today that is unprecedented.
As for mutual funds, you can trade in ETFs which will mirror just about anything you want to.
Of course since I’m retired I have lots of time to do analysis.
I meant it in a Clintonian sense.
Well, I hope you are correct, for your own sake.
The substance of the coordination between Quantum and the other hedge funds, back in 2006, was getting the SEC to make available to them all the trading information in real time. They were working on obtaining this from other markets, as well.
I am pretty sure most of us know what a prediction engine is and how it could be utilized with the ultra-fast electronic computer-mediated trades that can make the market move so far and so quickly, no one else has a chance to compete. Everyone is aware of the fast and huge moves in the market at various times in the past 3 years.
Interestingly enough, within the time period of 2006-2008, the SEC was supposedly investigating Quantum and others, both in the US and abroad. The information was sort of reflexively noted in various market articles and yet, even after the mysterious gigantic moves in 2008 at the start of the crash and the subsequent various *flash crash* events, nothing was done. And many independent investors were hurt, badly.
I do not know much about ETFs, but anyone who has a fund that is traded through an administrator or other third party cannot just sell, instantly. Their trades are only completed at the end of the trading day, in a block. In fact, most corporate-type accounts will refuse to market time and only believe in buy-and-hold. I have read of investors who were unable to get out of a position even when they were independently trading on their own behalf, because the computers froze, the lines went down, the volume of trades was too large for the system to handle, while the owners of that system, Quantum, GS, JPM, et al had their trades executed nano-seconds before anyone else even noticed the trend.
It is a different world in investing and not for the faint of heart. Fast and light, sure, but fast enough? I guess it depends. Transparency? I am not so sure.If you can spend 24 hours a day monitoring what is an inter-related global market that never sleeps or you have stop orders and options in play with automatic executions, you might stand a chance. My relative has to be on call to set up communications globally, so he rarely sleeps a full 8 or even 6 hours straight, depending on which markets are open.
I just thought your comment to the other poster that he could mirror Quantum was insensitive and did not take all factors into account. Personally, I saw _something_ coming back in the Spring of 2008 and did whatever I could with our investments to insulate them from _what I could see_. What I didn’t forsee was the totality, the vulnerability of everything and while I was able to limit our losses, we still lost what was, for us, a significant amount that cannot be replaced at our age and in this economy. I have a lot of empathy for the majority who are simply out of our depth in today’s market reality.
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