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From A to Z: What's wrong with Obama's birth certificate?
World Net Daily ^ | May 13, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 05/12/2011 9:58:43 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

After years of stonewalling and fighting in court to keep his long-form birth certificate under wraps, President Barack Obama has publicized an image of the document he claims should resolve his birthplace once and for all.

But is it the real deal?

In his speech announcing the birth certificate's release, Obama quickly tried to silence critical analysis of document:

"I know that there's going to be a segment of people for which, no matter what we put out, this issue will not be put to rest, but I'm speaking to the vast majority of the American people," Obama said. "We do not have time for this kind of silliness."

But Joseph Farah, editor and chief executive officer of WND, the only news agency that has waged a relentless investigative campaign on questions swirling around Obama's constitutional eligibility, warns those questions shouldn't be dismissed so quickly.

"The news media and the political establishment were quick to rush to judgment regarding Obama's eligibility in 2008, without any basis," Farah said. "It would be a big mistake for everyone to jump to a conclusion now based on the release of this document, which raises as many questions as it answers."

Some of those questions have already been resolved – such as rumors WND debunked claiming the name of the hospital on the document was fictitious – while others present significant challenges to accepting the birth certificate's validity.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Smokeyblue

The main thing wrong is you can’t validate a document’s authenticity from an image. You need to examine the original. Only the original document can be used as proof. Unless they are granting a document examiner direct access to the actual document, we must assume that the posted one could likely be a fake.


21 posted on 05/13/2011 5:09:36 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: PA-RIVER
Hawaii is run by communists in the same mold as Stalin.

I'm sure that Joe Farah and Donald Trump are just days away from exposing the Hawaiian gulags and the secret Maui jails where non-communists get an ounce of lead to the back of the head.

22 posted on 05/13/2011 5:32:02 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Populism is antithetical to conservatism.)
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To: AndyTheBear

There is a chorus of experts pointing out the problems with the PDF offered by the White House. Just, Dan Rather, and his cohorts in main stream media are not rocking the boat, and they may never.

Did popular media lead, or even fairly cover, the Clinton issues?
Did popular media offer fraudulent documents just before elections that cast President Bush in a very bad light? (Then defend them past the point of craziness.)

The popular media makes errors of commission and omission - usually with the same political bias.

This issue will be different only that the battle will be more intense.


23 posted on 05/13/2011 6:35:20 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Salamander

>>> Wonderful analysis. I know two people personally who are either blind as bricks or are drowning in denial.

Thanks!...

After that post as I was headed for bed, I had a very scary thought and a related connection.

Most conservatives know very well the circumstances surrounding the 2008 campaign, and how the mortgage crisis helped propel Obama into the white house through fear and lack of confidence in the banking industry. When the reality of the housing bubble burst, many speculated that the timing of that market revelation was just a little too convenient and coincidental... like an IED that had been planted, just waiting to be remotely detonated. The information and warnings were out there for everyone to see as early as 2005, but it wasn’t until the right person or persons “broke the story” before the market took it’s hit.

I see a possible correlation between the housing market crash and the eligibility issue... only on a much larger scale.

Look what happened to our economy over basically a single institution at the head of our financial system... and then compare that to our entire governmental framework that allowed Obama into the white house completely unvetted.

If a series of unsecured loans can do what they did to our economy in 2008, what happens to our economy when we “suddenly discover” we have an unsecured president?
This is the argument from those who know the truth about Obama but support the lie for the “good of the country”.

Problem with that is, that postponing the inevitable only puts the detonation device in the hands of those who put Obama there in the first place... and timing IS everything.

I’m NOT SAYING!.... just wondering.... if the puppet masters who chose, groomed, and appointed Obama to office actually did so KNOWING he wasn’t eligible for GOOD REASON.... just so they could “throw him under the bus” at the right time.

It sure struck me as odd how the media completely ignored this issue until Trump jumped on the BC band wagon... What did Trump do to start this??? NOTHING!... he just mentions it in passing, and the media jumped all over it! And, considering Trump’s failure to swing back after getting smacked in the face with Obama’s obvious new forgery, It seems to me that someone just got through seriously ratcheting up the explosive yield on their public confidence IED.

I guess my point is that this whole thing really isn’t about Obama. Obama is simply a means to an end.

America is under attack from within...
The Normalcy effect isn’t just a phenomenon... It’s a tool... And someone right now holds an extremely powerful weapon they can detonate at any time OF THEIR CHOOSING... because they know how to make use of their tools.

Birthers all along have simply been trying to set off this bomb early before it grew big enough to do catastrophic damage...

Now it’s too late... and conservatives are hoping that we can escape this by making it through 2012 without the bomb going off.


24 posted on 05/13/2011 7:39:00 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: nikos1121

>>> Hannity, Coulter, O Reilly, Rush, the entire staff at National REview Online etc all suffer from the Normalcy Effect.

It’s the only explanation besides the ones that suggest they are either under direct threat by the FCC or they are in on the deception, or they believe we can ignore this forever to avert the disaster it brings when revealed.

Who fits in which category??? who knows?


25 posted on 05/13/2011 7:53:23 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: AndyTheBear

Many experts are denouncing the BC forgery but they are not permitted beyond the Internet


26 posted on 05/13/2011 8:06:25 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: Safrguns
They INVESTED in him psychologically.

One of the ones who "invested in him psychologically" is my son. A day or two after Obama proffered Bamie BC II, he came home from work, opened the front door, and the first words out of his mouth were, "It's over." I had to ask him what he was talking about. "The birth certificate is a fake. It's all over YouTube."

So I don't think the situation is completely hopeless.

27 posted on 05/13/2011 8:27:11 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Safrguns

Agreed with your post right up until the end.

Do you really and truly think we can wait until 2012 even if Obama does not get re-elected? The problems continually grows exponentially bigger since even w/ him gone his policies will take much longer to overturn.

However, if he is outted as the fraud that he is then we have a virtual gov shutdown. All his cronies go w/ him and those remaining have to overturn and reverse all the policies/damage that they can.


28 posted on 05/13/2011 8:38:02 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: Notary Sojac
Good one! I like it!

Enslaving people for the benefit of another and taking away freedoms always has a violent end. An ounce of lead is worth a pound of regulations, and usually comes after the communist regulations fail.

I can easily picture Abercrombie popping a non-members head who refuses to pay taxes.

29 posted on 05/13/2011 8:40:24 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Smokeyblue

http://www.scribd.com/doc/55240893/Hornbeck-v-Salazar-Re-Obama-s-Forged-Birth-Certificate-Attachments-1-Exhibit-5-11-2011


30 posted on 05/13/2011 8:53:17 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Placemarker


31 posted on 05/13/2011 8:54:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: BladeBryan

“For instance, the state of Hawaii’s former Health Department chief Chiyome Fukino is the one official who, back when Obama’s long-form birth certificate was guarded more securely than the nation’s nuclear launch codes, supposedly examined the mysterious document and reported back to the state’s governor, and to the nation, that the president did indeed have a birth certificate and she had seen it!

But just two weeks before Obama finally released his “birth certificate,” Fukino was interviewed by NBC News’ national investigative correspondent Michael Isikoff, who reported that Fukino told him she had seen the original birth certificate and that it was “half typed and half handwritten.”

Problem: The document released with great pomp and ceremony by the White House was entirely typed. Only the signatures and two dates at the very bottom were “handwritten.” What Fukino described was clearly a different document. But don’t yell at WND for that “paranoid birther” story – you can thank NBC for that one.”

Read more: Startling new questions about ‘birth certificate’ http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=296957#ixzz1M8p1Yuf5

Lying to protect Hawaii’s systematic granting of US citizenship to people born outside the confines of the US. The “conspiracy” goes far beyond the one called Obama. This only puts it into the spotlight...


32 posted on 05/13/2011 8:56:34 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: BladeBryan

Hawaii officials also stated Obama is a natural born citizen but Brian Schatz, himself the Chair of the DPH in 2008, couldn’t attest to Obama meeting the eligibility requirements to get on the state ballot. And so the machinations with SanFranNan...

http://www.youtube.com/embed/R6LVic3c7JA?rel=0


33 posted on 05/13/2011 8:58:32 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: PA-RIVER; BladeBryan

And for the first time in history, the US credit rating is below AAA.

Wow, a gullible electorate installed our first muslim marxist mulatto president and we have tripled our debt and lost our excellent credit rating. Historic election - that’s what “hope and change” has wrought.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/18/news/economy/us_credit_rating_outlook_lowered/index.htm


34 posted on 05/13/2011 9:04:08 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: nikos1121

SO, DID YOU THINK THAT PERHAPS WHAT HAWAII RELEASED AND WHAT WAS POSTED ARE TWO DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS?


Ask Fukino...

“For instance, the state of Hawaii’s former Health Department chief Chiyome Fukino is the one official who, back when Obama’s long-form birth certificate was guarded more securely than the nation’s nuclear launch codes, supposedly examined the mysterious document and reported back to the state’s governor, and to the nation, that the president did indeed have a birth certificate and she had seen it!

But just two weeks before Obama finally released his “birth certificate,” Fukino was interviewed by NBC News’ national investigative correspondent Michael Isikoff, who reported that Fukino told him she had seen the original birth certificate and that it was “half typed and half handwritten.”

Problem: The document released with great pomp and ceremony by the White House was entirely typed. Only the signatures and two dates at the very bottom were “handwritten.” What Fukino described was clearly a different document. But don’t yell at WND for that “paranoid birther” story – you can thank NBC for that one.”

Read more: Startling new questions about ‘birth certificate’ http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=296957#ixzz1M8p1Yuf5


35 posted on 05/13/2011 9:09:13 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: nikos1121
There is no evidence that anything was altered in the WH PDF. There was opportunity for alteration when the image was processed. An original paper was presented to a reporter and she inspected and took a snapshot (probably with her crummy resolution cell phone camera).

You say In addition, there is no seal.

That is false. She touched the seal and snapped a picture here: http://lockerz.com/s/96540937If

There are only two explanations for that seal: either she is part of the conspiracy (doubtful) or she was given a color printout of the WH doc with a fake seal of some sort that she did not look at carefully or photograph adequately.

36 posted on 05/13/2011 9:09:34 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Fukino was interviewed by NBC News' national investigative correspondent Michael Isikoff, who reported that Fukino told him she had seen the original birth certificate and that it was "half typed and half handwritten."

Do you have an NBC link to that interview?

37 posted on 05/13/2011 9:13:24 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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38 posted on 05/13/2011 9:22:43 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: palmer

Attorney Apuzzo: An Analysis of the Current Revelations of Hawaii’s Dr. Chiyome Fukino to NBC News Regarding Obama’s Place of Birth

Isikoff then tells us:

“She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files.”

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/attorney-apuzzo-analysis-of-current.html


39 posted on 05/13/2011 9:35:26 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Thanks. That is definitely a good piece of evidence for some official lies.


40 posted on 05/13/2011 9:42:08 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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