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Former Marine killed by SWAT was acting in defense, family says
kgun9.com ^ | May 11, 2011 | Joel Waldman

Posted on 05/11/2011 4:48:15 PM PDT by WaterBoard

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To: WaterBoard

Here’s the link for where the house is in relation to the nearest fire department/ambulance. The SWAT team would not allow the paramedics to assist the victim until they gave them clearance. I don’t know how many bullets hit the victim or if the paramedics could have saved his life.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&ll=32.121446,-111.111796&spn=0.004789,0.006899&z=17&msid=216792924517856355766.0004a3089d053ae6122c7&iwloc=0004a308b3c0263c88748


41 posted on 05/11/2011 5:44:32 PM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: WaterBoard

Is a narcotics conspiracy a reason to break in and be authorized for deadly force? Are 71 shots excessive?

I know this was SWAT, and not the FBI, but this has a Ruby Ridge feeling to it. They wont even say that they found what they were looking for after the raid.


42 posted on 05/11/2011 5:45:22 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: iontheball

Did you hear about the raid on a judge’s mother’s house in Florida, which the authorities went into because they messed up on the address. No one was hurt, but after the cops screwed up, they lectured the judge’s family about “police want to go home to.”

One day, a rank and file officer will get shot because someone made a clerical mistake and someone else wanted to make a name for themselves. And after that, there will be a media push to de-arm civilians.


43 posted on 05/11/2011 5:48:31 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: WayneS

What is the front and who are the belligerents in the war on drugs?


44 posted on 05/11/2011 5:50:32 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: iontheball

Wait until the jackboot lickers get here saying how he deserved to get killed and how brave the cops were, then, if you are a decent individual, you will really get sick.


45 posted on 05/11/2011 5:51:24 PM PDT by sport
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To: papertyger

You wouldn’t believe how massively unemployed our lawyer bloated country is. I once watched a flunky fly all the way to Alaska from Florida on $1600.00 round trip tickets to pick up an interior aboriginal that worked 10 years before as a construction worker in Florida on minor coke Possession charges. It was so insignificant, even the Alaska State Troopers couldn’t believe it.


46 posted on 05/11/2011 5:51:36 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: WaterBoard

If by “justice for my kids” they mean that the cops will be prosecuted, well, that ain’t going to happen. If anything, they will get promoted.


47 posted on 05/11/2011 5:53:48 PM PDT by sport
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To: WaterBoard

This was not a SWAT team These are ill trained men with lots of firepower. 71 shots show they had no concern for anyone else, and that they were looking for an excuse to kill someone.


48 posted on 05/11/2011 5:55:35 PM PDT by MCF
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To: WaterBoard
And one more very important link that should've been in my comment #31.

Budget deficit on track to exceed $1 trillion
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2718418/posts

My point with all of those links is that there will be more encroachments against our freedoms and properties, as the leaders of the debt regime become more desperate.


49 posted on 05/11/2011 5:57:17 PM PDT by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Raider Sam

“No one was
hurt, but after the cops screwed up, they
lectured the judge’s family about “police want to go home to.””

If we’re not safe in our homes, why should they be...?


50 posted on 05/11/2011 5:58:25 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: WaterBoard

I always have a problem with the whole yelling of “SWAT!” or “Police” or whatever, anyway.

Anyone can yell that.

If I’m sound asleep in my bed and a bunch of guys come in yelling “SWAT!” I am supposed to believe them? This does not work.

If I were a home invader I’d just yell “SWAT!” every time.


51 posted on 05/11/2011 5:58:52 PM PDT by Persevero (We don't need Superman -- we have the Special Forces)
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To: WayneS

I have no problem with the war on drugs. I do have a problem with no-knock warrants.


52 posted on 05/11/2011 5:59:56 PM PDT by Persevero (We don't need Superman -- we have the Special Forces)
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To: WaterBoard

Some analyzers of trends paid by investment advisors and fund managers have said that more of our freedoms will be taken away with more “get tough on crime” laws and policies. It’s really already been happening for quite a few years.


53 posted on 05/11/2011 6:00:00 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Czar
The Nazi party had their own police force. It would be like the Democrat Party having their own police force. Called the SS. They were supposedly the purest of the pure.

Fast forward 2011. Militarized, Unionized LEOs acting like special forces heros.

Union personnel vote overwhelmingly Democrat.

Cops have become the political police force for the Democrat party. That's why they can break into a Marine's home, in masse, and assassinate the man in his own home and there's no defense against the lieing and cheating LEOs.

54 posted on 05/11/2011 6:00:40 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi (ULEOs surveil 24/7/365)
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To: Clump

“This so called war on drugs has claimed another innocent life. “

I’d say the so called no-knock warrant has claimed another innocent life.


55 posted on 05/11/2011 6:00:58 PM PDT by Persevero (We don't need Superman -- we have the Special Forces)
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To: sport

The USSC needs to make the SWAT entries into homes unconstitutional unless someones life is in danger. There is no reason to use forceful entrance military tactics for drug conspiracy. This makes me ill. I wish I was a millionaire and I would get all these people together and go the Washington and demand a hearing before Congress to get this crap stopped.


56 posted on 05/11/2011 6:02:41 PM PDT by therut
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To: sport

The USSC needs to make the SWAT entries into homes unconstitutional unless someones life is in danger. There is no reason to use forceful entrance military tactics for drug conspiracy. This makes me ill. I wish I was a millionaire and I would get all these people together and go the Washington and demand a hearing before Congress to get this crap stopped.


57 posted on 05/11/2011 6:03:16 PM PDT by therut
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

“Far too many conservatives and Freepers love this sort of thing, anytime the cops get all Ramboed up and go kick in a door in the name of the war on done drugs...”

I think you misrepresent conservatives and FReepers with this remark. We can oppose legalized recreational drugs without supported state sanctioned home invasion murders.

I don’t support this activity but I still want to see drug laws enforced constitutionally.


58 posted on 05/11/2011 6:03:26 PM PDT by Persevero (We don't need Superman -- we have the Special Forces)
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To: papertyger

That one really pissed me off. From what I remember, a neighbor called a potential break in at something like 3104 address. However, the street only had 3102 and 3106. So, as the investigation of a break-in (which apparently didnt happen) they saw a well-lit house with blinds drawn and decided that was the one that was being robbed, because all robbers turn on the lights, tv, and draw the blinds.

They went to the window and saw an old lady in a mumu, and upon that decided they had to break in. They asked everyone to come out and the judge who lived there came out armed. They intimidated her to drop the weapon, until one of the top dog cops realized this was a judge they used to get warrants and he told his men to stand down. As they were leaving, one of the cops lectured the old lady and the judge about not drawing a weapon on a cop, because cops want to go home too.


59 posted on 05/11/2011 6:03:54 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Persevero

Until an officer clearly identifies himself, he is just another thug that needs to be shot.


60 posted on 05/11/2011 6:05:46 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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