Posted on 05/08/2011 2:59:21 PM PDT by jimtorr
We've all wanted to tell a jogger to put his shirt back on, but what happened recently in suburban Boston is a little different.
Westwood High track coach Tom Davis was fired last week because one of his runners decided to take his shirt off during training on a 75-degree day. This wasn't a girl, by the way. It was a boy.
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That wasn't the end of it. Davis was let go on the spot, in front of his team, and eventually escorted off school property.
"The kids on my team, it was terrible," Davis told the TV station. "Their faces, just pure disgust, pure fear."
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But there was an undercurrent of tension at the school as Fogel told Davis that some members of the girls team felt uncomfortable when the boys ran without shirts. Davis even warned his team about possible punishment for not wearing a shirt.
(Excerpt) Read more at thepostgame.com ...
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“The kids on my team, it was terrible,” Davis told the TV station. “Their faces, just pure disgust, pure fear.”
Big, hairy sweaty moobs?
Yeah, they do have those tiny gherkins.
I guess the girls figure if they have to wear tops then the boys do too. Kinda like the “girls” in Sweden making it a law that men have to pee sitting down too. Lol, something tells me the “girls” are not going to like it when all the men in their nation are feminized and the girls have to fight the wars.
I just left a thread where women were protesting for the right to dress like sluts and to be free from the danger of rape. And here the females are destroying a man’s career for something that has always been considered normal and is far from slutty.
I suspect, uncomfortable isn't the correct word. Ever heard of hormones? More like, "O-M-G!!!!!!!!! (giggle, giggle) Did you see what a hunk Scotty was today without his shirt!!!!! He's soooooo, HOT!!!!!" Sounds to me like the athletic director might have some underlying issues what with his over-reaction.
Ah ha, seems my suspicions might have been spot on.
“I guess shirts-V-skins in basketball is out too?”
I remember ‘shirts-V-skins’ basketball when I was in 7th grade at a Catholic school (yes, we did have segregated gym class - boys w/boys, girls w/girls).
Granted in was in the mis-80’s, but WOW.
This teracher needs to claim he’s a drunken, bipolar, illegal fag. He’ll get his job back, with a promotion.
From the movie: Mr. Roberts
Where are your shirts?
Where are your shirts?
-Captain—
-Shut up!
Where are your shirts?
Get those shirts on and be quick about it!
l’m sorry, put your shirts on.
Just one minute, Mister!
Who’s captain of this vessel?
That is the rankest piece of insubordination
l ever seen.
You’ve been getting pretty smart lately,
buttering up to Mr. Roberts here.
But this time you have gone too far!
And l’m making you a little promise.
l am never going to forget this.
And as a starter, you’re on report.
Every one of you who appeared on deck
without a shirt, on report!
You’re not putting these men on report.
-What do you mean l’m not?
-l’m responsible. l gave them permission.
You disobeyed my standing order?
Seems to me the boys have a uniform for their sport, practice and meets, and should not be out of it while on the field.
Back in my early time in junior high, 1996-1998, we used to play segregated football in the morning, and not a single person had a problem with that at all. And by segregated, we played blacks vs. whites.
Shirts v Skins AND Black vs. White? Holy Sh*t!
Call the UN!!!
/s
You are kidding of course.
I coach high school JV baseball and would not tolerate the kids being out of uniform on the field. Team discipline is from the ground up. No kidding.
It's tough to imagine 2011 teenage girls complaining about shirtless athletic males but any thing is possible.
I'd have less trouble believing a gay teammate complaining about discomfort or distraction.
As far as I can tell, the Fogel guy committed civil rights violations against the male students under in loci parentis , and by not giving cause for firing the coach, probably violated labor relations laws in Massachussetts.
If the students press charges, the Fogel guy and the school district is screwed. NO court is going to overturn community standards on such a flimflam case, meaning Fogel would lose if the case isn’t thrown out.
http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter272/Section31
“Nudity’’, uncovered or less than opaquely covered human genitals, pubic areas, the human female breast below a point immediately above the top of the areola, or the covered male genitals in a discernibly turgid state. For purposes of this definition, a female breast is considered uncovered if the nipple or areola only are covered.
And a footnote from a legal paper regarding this:
10. Dydyn v. Dep’t of Liquor Control, 531 A.2d 170, 175 (Conn. App. Ct. 1987). This is
commonly known as the “real difference” doctrine. See generally Virginia F. Milstead,
Forbidding Female Toplessness: Why “Real Difference” Jurisprudence Lacks “Support” and
What Can Be Done About It, 36 U. TOL. L. REV. 273 (2005). For other instances in which courts
have found that “real differences” between women’s and men’s breasts render a sex-based
toplessness statute substantially related to the government’s legitimate interests, see, for example,
Hodel, 683 F. Supp. at 300 (finding that the sex-based classification was substantially related to
the government’s interests because “[c]ommunity standards do not deem the exposure of males’
breasts offensive, therefore, the state does not have an interest in preventing exposure of the
males’ breasts” (citing Craft, 509 N.Y.S.2d at 1010)) and City of Seattle v. Buchanan, 584 P.2d
918, 922 (Wash. 1978) (“[S]exual differences (the sexual arousal commonly associated with the
female but not the male breasts) bears a direct relationship to the legislative purpose of the
preservation of public decency and order.”).
They don´t play unless they wear hats either. Given the overall degradation of American high schools in general (of which mine is no exception) athletes can certainly use some discipline. No one´s forcing them come out for the team.
Sorry your school was so cheap.
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