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To: Tomato lover
Both parents must be United States Citizens, place of birth does not factor into the equation

The Framers' drew on Emmer De Vattel's definition of Natural Born Citizen (from his famous work, "Law of Nations") when they wrote it into our Constitution. It was the highest and securest bar they could place on the office of president, to prevent usurpation by someone with divided loyalties.



25 posted on 05/08/2011 9:03:49 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Best representation of the NBC issue I’ve seen, where did you find this?


29 posted on 05/08/2011 9:07:05 AM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: Windflier

>> The Framers’ drew on Emmer De Vattel’s definition of Natural Born Citizen <<

Maybe they did. But under Section One, Article Eight of the Constitution, Congress can change the requirements as to who must be “naturalized” — versus who becomes a citizen at birth. So whatever Vattel’s definition of “natural born” might have been, it was long ago made obsolete both by statutory law and by the 14th Amendment.


89 posted on 05/08/2011 10:08:57 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Windflier
The Framers' drew on Emmer De Vattel's definition of Natural Born Citizen (from his famous work, "Law of Nations") when they wrote it into our Constitution. It was the highest and securest bar they could place on the office of president, to prevent usurpation by someone with divided loyalties.

Yes, but they didn't have a time machine to zoom forward to use the 19th Century English edition like so many here claim.

Also, your claim that a minor can have his citizenship taken away from him also has no backing. In fact, it's contraindicated by legal precedent, to my knowledge.

99 posted on 05/08/2011 10:20:56 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Windflier; Tomato lover

Thanks for the graphic.

Another visual illustration I can think of (vastly oversimplified) is that of the double gate: e.g. a double barrier at a grade-level railroad crossing, a double watertight door on a submarine for underwater entry and exit, a double gate at a dog park. All of the above show how a double gate keeps the right things in and the right things out. “Natural born citizen” is how our Constitution keeps foreigners and those with foreign loyalties out of the Presidency (and Vice Presidency) and allows only loyal natural-born Americans inside.


102 posted on 05/08/2011 10:23:55 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Windflier

Great graphic in #25 that is easy to understand! Thanks!


210 posted on 05/08/2011 3:51:12 PM PDT by octex
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