Posted on 05/06/2011 7:06:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Obama was being damaged by the BC issue.
The ‘new’ long form BC looks like another forgery from the left.
The bigger issue IMO surrounded the issue of whether he became and Indonesian citizen when adopted by Lolo, whether he registered as a foreign student for aid and whether he used a foreign passport to go to Pakistan and of course the way he obtained his SS number.
The new BC was released to coincide with the take down of OBL. There can be no doubt of this.
Brilliant politically.
His background is now politically a dry well not worth anymore effort.
The unemployment rate is currently 9% (the real rate is >15%) No President has been reelected when the rate has been >8%. Energy prices will continue to rise, raising the price of food and everything else. The debt and deficit are still out of control.
Don’t fight the battle on unfavorable terrain that favors the enemy, fight the battle on favorable terrain and under conditions that favor a victory.
IOW don’t obsess on a politically unfavorable whether you are right or not doesn’t matter defeating the enemy is the goal, how is a secondary concern. In truth I would rather see Obama diseased ideology repudiated with Obama than getting him out on a ‘technicality’ even though we know he is there illegally.
What I keep screaming is His eligibility to run the NEXT time. He should be ineligible to run for re-election. Forget the first time, shame on him. But if he is allowed again to run in '12, shame on us.
Now that is just down right ornery and MEAN!
Love it! :)
The person he claims is his father was never an American. The Evidence points completely away from Barack Sr. as being his father. I recently figured out the deciding piece of information for myself.
I believe Barack's Father is an America, and I would like to show others why I believe this. Perhaps they can find a hole in my thinking.
How many people do you think believe Obama is an "impostor" i.e. either not a citizen or not a natural born citizen? Five, ten percent? Virtually none of the big names in conservative circles believe what you do. Many strong conservatives (Beck, Coulter) have made a point of ridiculing birthers. Do you honestly think you're going to get any Pubbie congressmen or senators to take you seriously? The issue is as dead as OBL.
Obama posted a blatant forgery just to show the thinking public that he can get away with it, with the help of the media. When something that blatant is swallowed by so many, it is demoralizing to anybody who expects his/her fellow-man to have a brain.
This was a sheer shock-and-awe display of how much damage he can do to truth just by getting his media minions to parrot his talking-points and ridicule those who don’t buy the crap.
And it IS demoralizing. I’m about ready to say that if America is this stupid we deserve what’s coming so it’s best to just shake the dust off my feet and let America meet its just end, which is most assuredly coming.
I posted a link to my blog on a sports site the other day. At http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2011/05/04/oh-come-on-orioles-luke-scott-thinks-obamas-birth-certificate-may-be-fake#comments . Here’s a response I thought was very revealing:
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I guess when I C&P this it doesn’t show it, but there were 23 people who liked that comment and 2 who didn’t.
I’m not going to commit suicide so nobody needs to worry about that, but that tells me that there are some sick people who prefer someone else’s death to truth. If America is that full of crapsters there is no amount of truth that I can bring to people’s attention that will prevent this nation from committing its own suicide.
Makes me wonder if my/our attempts to keep the nation on life support are futile because the patient is already brain-dead. Maybe it’s time to just let the patient die in its sleep.
Then again, I’m tired. Maybe I just need to go plant some bulbs and see again that even what appears dead can come to life again.
Good, then you'll accept James Madison, "Father of the Constitution" as your authority?
It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other.
The question is “why?”. The political manuevering part is basic, but that assumes he is covering up.
Nothing is better settled at the common law than the doctrine that the children, even of aliens, born in a country while the parents are resident there under the protection of the government and owing a temporary allegiance thereto, are subjects by birth
They were deciding an Issue of Article II were they?
The point is moot. Barack is the offspring of Two American Citizens.
Sure there are flaws in the forgery and they know it. They figure why not play with us like there’s nothing we can do....WRONG! We’re smarter than that. Stand up and be counted!
Hey, I haven’t had my full dose of coffee yet. Makes me ornery!
Truth has never had a majority following. I could care less what talkers or writers for hire say. I am living the reality of a man that has demonstrated the Constitution is meaningless to him and his vision for this nation. There is not enough whitewash on God's green earth to make something to be what it is NOT. I thought 'conservatives' were 'law and order' not cowards in corners saying 'nothing we can do', and then proceed to spew liberal ridicule to those that have Constitutional expectations.
Exactly!
And no one seems to care. I can't figure it out.
Go to http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf. (His document!)
Open it up. There's a little window at the top where you can specify the magnification you want. Tell it 1000%. (10x). Scroll to where you can see the riser in the 'h' in the Dunham signature, and the riser in the 'S' in the Sinclair signature. (This is about 60% down, and 60% to the right on the computer I'm using now.) NOTE THE DIFFERENCE IN PIXEL SIZES in these two letters. This could never happen on a single scan of single document. It is a composite, and therefore a fraud.
ML/NJ
Consider this example. Say we criticize the president for his handling of the economy, jobs, debt and other legitimate topics. With the birther issue unresolved, he can just paint us as a bunch of fringe, wacko kooks and use it to discredit our positions on those issues.
With the birth certificate revealed, if we STILL continue down this path, we look even worse than fringe, wacko kooks... we look like a bunch of idiots who are in denial and completely out of touch with reality, and that sinks us even more.
That's why we need to stop pushing this birther nonsense. It is done.
Amen!
I could not get a license to drive a car let alone own a dog with that fake whatever it was.
If Trump’s support collapses, that’s definitely a good thing.
That’s Cloward-Piven in action. Demoralize the opposition by overwhelming them with how big the obstacle is. Slam them so fast and so hard that they can’t ever catch all the lies before they’ve deceived huge numbers of people.
Right now the biggest obstacle we face is the fact that we don’t have a functioning government, media, courts, or law enforcement. The people who can do something refuse, and they keep the rest of us from being able to do anything no matter what we can prove.
If some reports are true, the blatant Obama forgery may have been noticed by the people who need to notice it: the military.
Trying to convince the stupid public may be hopeless. But we may not need to do that. Like a small bit of sonar which, when properly focused and positioned, can cause a mighty earthquake... the right information in precisely the right hands can bring down the mafia. And Obama may have chosen the wrong people to flip the bird at. Kind of like Osama Bin Laden did...
I am not going over this crap again. You may believe what ever you like. It makes no difference anymore. I now believe Obama has an American Father, so it doesn't really matter if one parent owes allegiance to a foreign government, that is not the issue we are dealing with any longer.
I will show WHY I believe this to anyone who is interested.
Will we require DNA tests of all future candidates for U.S. President to trace back to both parents?
Anyone can claim to be a father on a B.C. there is no paternity test requirement.
What most everyone seemed to miss is that the most hardcore element of the birthers exists NOT among the Republicans, Consevatives, or Democrats, but among the Independents!
Look at the numbers: After the release of the latest Birth Certificate, less than one half of these groups were no longer “birthers”, yet, among Independents, TWO THIRDS were still birthers.
This is very interesting and refutes the often-repeated lie that Republicans and Conservatives are close-minded, bigoted racists. Use this one on your liberal friends! The most staunch birthers exist among the Independents!
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