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To: Eagle of Liberty

I don’t think being a protectionist is the issue or what Ron Paul believes...I think he believes what our founders believed.

Friend to all enemy to none. Now that doesn’t mean we cower and back-away from a conflict it means if you become our enemy we will eliminate you with extreme prejudice but we want all to want to do trade with us, etc.

We went off the rails when the first de-facto progressive Teddy Roosevelt decided we needed to nation build and start installing our own puppets under the guise of democracy in foreign countries all under the umbrella that we need to protect our “interests”.

You know what...it has been a 100 year experiement that has failed 100% of the time we have done it. Now the world hates us because of these progressive ideas and when you really look at nation building it is just another form of redistributing the wealth.

How is it fair that we take our hard-earned money and just give it to foreign countries to build them?

We need our own independence in energy, manufacturing, etc...this entire new world order BS is going to destroy us.

We need radical change in the next administration - back to our roots, back to our Constitution, back to our founder’s vision and a Ronald Reagan type isn’t going to cut it. Calvin Coolidge at a minimum is what we need now and maybe even a George Washington.

We better all decide to get bold before 2012 because voting for a party isn’t going to save us. :)


527 posted on 05/06/2011 9:27:21 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: surfer
You and Ron Paul make some very good points, but with this nation building, it isn't like every nation has been a sovereign nation for the last 100 years. Many were still British or French colonies. Also WWI and WWII caused land to be divided up into insane ways.

But I do agree that the Founding Fathers had the goal of being able to trade with everyone.

I also agree that nation building or dictator installing needs to end. What should still carry on though, is a desire to FREE those who want out of the shackles of their current situation. Perhaps this is where the debate needs to focus on. Is there some policy that is not complete Non-interventionist, but is also not ALL-interventionist? Do we owe it to our allies to stick with them when evil shows its face? How much to get involved?

Along those lines, I think that we also need to strive to become an independent country as much as we can with respect to energy or on any other front which makes us dangerously dependent on other nations.
530 posted on 05/06/2011 9:45:44 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty ("You're a different kind of special..........")
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