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6 Huge Problems For Silver Investors (The Price of Silver has Tanked Spectacularly)
Business Insider ^ | 05/05/2011 | Joe Weisenthal

Posted on 05/05/2011 11:54:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Silver is now threatening to fall below $38/oz, which would mark a nearly 22% decline from its bubblicious highs last week.

It's obviously spectacularly volatile, and we don't know how this will end up, but we can think of several threats to silver bulls.

* As the lady in the Lind Waldock (commodities broker) commercials always says, commodities are all a price play. There's no hard metric for anyone to know whether something has gotten cheap or not. There's no P/E level that makes silver a must buy.

* Big, smart money is selling: Soros, Carlos Slim, etc.

* Margin requirements have been going up. Conspiracy theorists like to claim that the silver plunge is owed to the fact that the exchanges are nefariously requiring traders to put up more collateral to trade futures. That is definitely a headwind. If silver is to go back to its hold highs, traders will need to have more money devoted to it than they did before. But on the other hand, the margin hike explanation doesn't explain the carnage across the commodity complex. Have you seen cotton lately? Even oil is coming off.

* Investment in coins and metals has surged in recent years vs. industrial demand, which further reduces the natural floor on the price.

* If the economy falters, people are going to want to raise liquidity, and that means cash, hence the correlation with equities.

* Central banks all around the world are tightening. The cheap money thesis is fading.

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I bought the SLV ETF ( Tied to the price of silver ) at about $18/share. When it reached $45/share, I put a stop limit to sell at $36.00 ( for a potential 100% profit ).

After almost hitting $50.00, SLV dropped below $36.00 today, triggering my sell.

1 posted on 05/05/2011 11:54:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Why can’t this happen to oil?


2 posted on 05/05/2011 11:56:28 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: SeekAndFind

LOL, I said last week was the time to sell, was it you that laughter when I said a bird in hand was worth two in the bush. You did well however.


3 posted on 05/05/2011 11:57:27 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: SeekAndFind

IMHO this is a perfect opportunity to dump paper silver and buy physical. As on fiat currency after another goes down in flames there is only one long term direction for precious metals....up.
As my friends on ZeroHedge say : BTFD ( buy the f****** dip)


4 posted on 05/05/2011 11:59:10 AM PDT by Thurifer the Censer (If you can see the altar, there's not enough smoke)
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To: New Jersey Realist

RE: Why can’t this happen to oil?

It IS happening to oil as well. Crude Oil is now BELOW $100/barrel as of this writing !!

Almost all commodities ( Gold, Food Inputs, Coal, you name them ) are TANKING.

Go to this site and see for yourself :

http://finance.yahoo.com


5 posted on 05/05/2011 12:00:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: New Jersey Realist

I think it is. The last time I put gas in my car, about 10 days ago, it was $3.88/9.

Today it was $3.69/9.

That’s progress, right?


6 posted on 05/05/2011 12:04:14 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the dollar is getting stronger for some reason. The stock market is dipping, too.


7 posted on 05/05/2011 12:04:57 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: New Jersey Realist
It can. It did. In 2008.
8 posted on 05/05/2011 12:08:37 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind
Let's all panic, sell our commodities and buy equities! That should buoy up the stock market and make Obama look like a financial genius!

Commodities are volatile. That comes with the territory. I have no doubt that the powers that be are doing everything in their power to force investors out of commodities and back into paper.

I'm fine with that. It allows me to buy at lower prices as I still believe that real assets have real value unlike paper assets in an artificially Fed-inflated market that are only worth the heat they produce when burned.

BTW, the real smart money buys low and sells high. If Soros is selling, it's because he is planning to get back in when the price is lower. Gee, I wonder how he knew the price would go lower? Hmm.

9 posted on 05/05/2011 12:11:58 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I sold at $45.50


10 posted on 05/05/2011 12:12:03 PM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, now a bit below $36. FWIW, Rick Ackerman has a
“hidden pivot” at $35.39 (July silver), which might mark a tradable bottom.


11 posted on 05/05/2011 12:13:20 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: SeekAndFind

I need 50$ oil for an entry point, but I doubt the latest panic will go below 75$, just my WAG.


12 posted on 05/05/2011 12:15:55 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: sportutegrl

I think the dollar is getting stronger for some reason. The stock market is dipping, too.>>>>>>

I’ll bet the Federal Reserve is behind a lot of this. They have an intimate relationship with the primary dealers and can urge them and incentivize them to pile on the shorting of silver gold oil commodities which all jacks up the USD. The Federal Reserve has a permanent interest is having a respectable dollar because dollars are their stock in trade. Gold and silver are not
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List of the Primary Government Securities Dealers Reporting to the Government Securities Dealers Statistics Unit of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York

BNP Paribas Securities Corp.
Barclays Capital Inc.
Cantor Fitzgerald & Co.
Citigroup Global Markets Inc.
Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC
Daiwa Capital Markets America Inc.
Deutsche Bank Securities Inc.
Goldman, Sachs & Co.
HSBC Securities (USA) Inc.
Jefferies & Company, Inc.
J.P. Morgan Securities LLC
Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith Incorporated
MF Global Inc.
Mizuho Securities USA Inc.
Morgan Stanley & Co. Incorporated
Nomura Securities International, Inc.
RBC Capital Markets, LLC
RBS Securities Inc.
SG Americas Securities, LLC
UBS Securities LLC.


13 posted on 05/05/2011 12:16:33 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: dennisw

WTI crude = $98.5/barrel which is down $10 today
WTI = West Texas Intermediate


14 posted on 05/05/2011 12:18:03 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: SeekAndFind
I bought silver coins with intrinsic value. They have NOT gone down.
Buying a piece of paper that says you own silver is like getting a title to a rental car. Anyone that bought paper silver and gold will be stuck with paper.
George Soros still owns tonnes of gold and silver but what I have been able to research, he has dumped his paper shares.
There are a few reasons this would happen. Not enough physical metals to cover his investment, and the price of the contracts has gone up 82 percent . You need 21 thousand dollars to buy a single contract.
I believe when the dollar tanks, you will need coins to trade for food and supplies.
Don't sell low and buy high.
If the price goes down more that's great, so people can buy more.
15 posted on 05/05/2011 12:18:49 PM PDT by lucky american (I'm tired.)
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To: Thurifer the Censer

I do have physical and I almost sold it 2 weeks ago because I thought I was going to have to buy a house and needed a good down payment.

I’m glad I didn’t and plan to get more, I haven’t bought much since 2008.


16 posted on 05/05/2011 12:18:49 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Cicero

Buy some when its up. Buy some when it is down. Ya can’t go wrong. Just buy it all the time. Then keep ahold of it.


17 posted on 05/05/2011 12:18:57 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Weisenthal doesn't understand physical metals. He thinks people are buying them as an investment. They're not.

People are buying metals for two reasons:

* Precious metals are a store of value. Over time they retain their value unlike the dollar that has lost 95% of its purchasing power since the Fed was created in 1913.

* Precious metals are MONEY. They have been used as currency for 5,000 years and will continue in that role. Paper has been a historically recent and fraudulent experiment designed to steal from the people.

All I need to know in order to understand that even the Left believes that gold is currency is that our first great socialist president, FDR, stole gold bullion from the American people and made its ownership illegal. The last thing he wanted was for Americans to no longer need phony Federal Reserve notes. Without gold, they had no real alternative.

18 posted on 05/05/2011 12:23:44 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)
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19 posted on 05/05/2011 12:28:18 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: SeekAndFind

update: $35.01


20 posted on 05/05/2011 12:31:28 PM PDT by babble-on
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