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Secret Bin Laden Raid Chopper A Modified MH-60? (New Stealth Blackhawk?)
Defense Tech ^

Posted on 05/04/2011 8:54:09 PM PDT by tophat9000

I’m still skeptical, but Army Times’ ace reporter on all things special ops, Sean Naylor, used his very good source base to produce this piece saying that the secret helicopter that crashed during the raid that killed Osama bin Laden was indeed a stealth version of the MH-60 Black Hawk.

The helicopters that flew the Navy SEALs on the mission to kill Osama bin Laden were a radar-evading variant of the special operations MH-60 Black Hawk, according to a retired special operations aviator.

The helicopter’s low-observable technology is similar to that of the F-117 Stealth Fighter the retired special operations aviator said. “It really didn’t look like a traditional Black Hawk,” he said. It had “hard edges, sort of like an … F-117, you know how they have those distinctive edges and angles — that’s what they had on this one.”

In addition, “in order to keep the radar cross-section down, you have to do something to treat the windshield,” he said. If a special coating was applied to the windshield it is “very plausible” that would make the helicopter more difficult to fly for pilots wearing night-vision goggles, he said.

Read more: http://defensetech.org/#ixzz1LRhdHOoD Defense.org


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; binladenraid; blackhawk; stealth
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What the Secret Bin Laden Raid Helo Might Look Like


1 posted on 05/04/2011 8:54:17 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: tophat9000

“Whisper” mode?


2 posted on 05/04/2011 8:56:42 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja
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To: tophat9000

What’s left was carried away on trucks by the Pakistanis. Without doubt it’ll be in China’s hands by the weekend.


3 posted on 05/04/2011 8:56:42 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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4 posted on 05/04/2011 8:57:46 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: tsowellfan

I find it hard to believe that they’d leave such secret and valuable technology behind for anyone to find.


5 posted on 05/04/2011 9:02:30 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25

Believe it. We’ve done it before.


6 posted on 05/04/2011 9:05:34 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: jeltz25

On the front page there’s a video of one part of what the Pakistanis took away on trucks. Not sure how sensitive what was left behind is though.

http://english.aljazeera.net/


7 posted on 05/04/2011 9:07:45 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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Since The Pakistanis are such good partners on the War On Terror they will just give it back. /S

Giving it to China should be considered as an Hostile attack on American Property by the Pakistanis.


8 posted on 05/04/2011 9:10:52 PM PDT by Bailee
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To: tophat9000

Article on Stealth Helicopters used on UBL Mission

9 posted on 05/04/2011 9:11:11 PM PDT by shield (Rev2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: Cyber Ninja

The closest I could image to whisper mode is to auto rotate in for a landing.

That could explain why the one didn’t quite make the wall.


10 posted on 05/04/2011 9:14:19 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1 .00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: tsowellfan

Actually they used a tractor and a wagon.


11 posted on 05/04/2011 9:15:50 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1 .00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: tophat9000

no doubt the Chicoms are as happy to get that as we are to get Bin Laden


12 posted on 05/04/2011 9:16:17 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: mylife

I thought it was borrowed rickshaws


13 posted on 05/04/2011 9:19:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: jeltz25
Their main concern was to get out of Dodge, with OBL, the intel items and their entire team, before the Pak army arrived.

The tail section is different, but does not appear especially "secret". I would guess that a fenestron tail rotor

or the Hughes NOTAR are much quieter that this design.

The main secret technology will be in the avionics and the rotor blade tips. They probably managed to destroy most, if not all of the avionics. If the blade tips were composite and the pilot(s) was not otherwise occupied then they were probably dealt with.

14 posted on 05/04/2011 9:19:21 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less." M Rosen)
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To: tophat9000

These upgrades came from the cancelled COMMANCHE program I guess?


15 posted on 05/04/2011 9:22:28 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: MHGinTN

Something like that LoL


16 posted on 05/04/2011 9:22:37 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1 .00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: jeltz25
Pretty much the entire rear rotor section survived the demolition of the damaged chopper they left behind. Pics here

Nifty.

17 posted on 05/04/2011 9:23:38 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: mylife

Autorotations are not exactly quiet. The CH-53 sounds like a Stuka dive bomber (at least from inside the cockpit) during the first part of an autorotation. Then the big roar comes in when you pull pitch at the bottom. Sounds kinda like a C-130 reversing props on a short field landing.

If you can hit an LZ power on, you also should be able to in a planned autorotation. My guess is that the first bird into the LZ did not land far enough forward, leaving too little room for Dash 2. Wiser to hang your tail over the wall than to hit your ride out (the first bird) with your rotor blades.

Just a guess.


18 posted on 05/04/2011 9:29:03 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less." M Rosen)
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To: BwanaNdege
Anything could have happened. I'm just poking in the dark based on the actual pictures I've seen.

Then the big roar comes in when you pull pitch at the bottom.

I have never been through one. I can imagine this to be true but I would think is all quieter than engines running.

19 posted on 05/04/2011 9:37:33 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1 .00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: DTogo
I remember reading that they hit the wall coming in for the landing. So the piece you see,and not destroyed was on the outside of the wall. out of site, out of mind. The U.S. could easily buy it back with Obama dollars.
20 posted on 05/04/2011 9:44:15 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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