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Posted on 05/01/2011 9:45:04 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
If you really, really dislike Barack Obama, his long-form birth certificate, finally proffered in exasperation, is quite simply a counterfeit.
If you are a fan of the president — or even a respectful critic — you are relieved finally to have rid the country of the plague of “birtherism,” the rabid belief that Obama wasn’t born in this country and isn’t constitutionally qualified to be president.
To whichever group one claims membership, one can’t help wondering when exactly we lost our minds.
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Yes, obviously. Trump resurrected the birther cause and breathed new life into it. But it wasn’t only to end the debate that Obama sent for his certificate. According to the vineyard, it was also to prevent other Republican candidates from looking sane by comparison to Trump.
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In a saner time, Trump would be dismissed as the carnival barker Obama implied he is. People would have recognized Trump as a self-aggrandizing megalomaniac and put a period at the end of the sentence. Not remotely would his name be followed with this phrase: “who is leading other Republican candidates in polls.”
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Alas, there is no reasoning with the unreasonable, too many of whom these days seem to self-identify as Republicans or conservatives. This is as Democrats would have it, needless to say, but no one is served by our national descent into silliness. Sadly missing on the Republican side is the leveling voice of the grown-up who will say not only that he takes Obama’s word (and the clear evidence), but that the Republican Party won’t tolerate further discussion. Case closed.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
In a saner time, Obama would not have been on the 2008 ballot without evidencing his qualifications.
Kathleen Parker: the Left’s plastic flak doll.
“The Democrats are the original “birthers”. A Democrat sued John McCain in early 2008 saying he was not qualified for the presidency due to being born in the Canal Zone.”
In addition, they—including Barack Hussein Obama—insisted that both McCain’s parents be American citizens.
Obama could have thrown out a green gum wrapper and proclaimed it his birf certificate, and the lame stream liberal media and OBots would have jump for joy embracing the CON, which is what happened.
Oh please, Malkin is not running for President nor is there any other secret reason for her to avoid birther stuff like the plague. She, like myself and most other people, accepted the short form to be legally sufficient. She probably correctly guessed, as did I, that even the long form's release would not be sufficient for the die hard birther types. This is because a good conspiracy never dies. Those who believe the conspiracy become wedded to it and simply can't let go.
And how to you explain virtually all other prominent conservative commentators who absolutely detest what Hussein is doing to this country also staying away from the birther issue? Think Mark Levin is suddenly a RINO? Coulter? The list goes on.
A good number of the "birthers" have a good handle on the debate and the Obama side keeps coming up short. It's like they are jinxed or don't know how to tell the truth ~ entirely possible.
Oh nonsense. Do you see the silly stuff some are posting in thread after thread right here on this forum? Ridiculous YouTube videos now claiming the long form is some elaborate conspiracy and is fake? They CAN'T let go no matter what is released. Some people have invested so much time, energy and emotion in this conspiracy that they will never be able to admit they were wrong all along. This is just the nature of conspiracy theorists - once they latch on to some crazy idea many can't or won't ever admit to being wrong. Once one part of their theory is reasonably debunked, they simply add to the crazy and find new things to create conspiracies about. Soon they are nitpicking dumb unrelated things and you end up with conspiracies within conspiracies.
This simply cannot be dismissed out of hand like so much nonsense, not and hand over the black bag with power over half the nukes in the world.
You got the long form. It's over. It proved exactly what we knew all along - and it's release made people like Trump look like more of a clown than he already is.
The issue is DEAD. Dead, dead, dead. For the love of God, let it go and move on to real issues. Hussein is an AWFUL president. Gas is now over 4 bucks a gallon in most places and the economy is a pile of crap. People need to stop hoping Trump or Corsi or someone else "finds something" on Obama to remove him. It is NOT going to happen that way. We can get rid of BHO in November 2012 by beating him on the issues. Period. Birther conspiracies will play no role in the next election at all.
Obama’s ineligibility: Were Americans set up by the press and then scammed by the Congress?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/36025
McCain was born in a civilian hospital in Colon, Panama. Strictly speaking he did not meet the natural born citizenship criterion.
So, a deal was struck between the Republicans and Democrats not to make an issue of the natural born clause of the Constitution for either McCain or Obama.
The press keep the pressure on the McCain eligibility issue nearly all the way to election day to deflect scrutiny from Obama’s eligibility problem.
The release of Obama’s Certification of Live Birth in June 2008 was part of the deception.
The deception continues today as does the strange silence of our political elites.
In my opinion, complicity and acquiescence in 2008 explains today’s willful ignorance by the political elites and the main stream media.
It was all a very well-executed scam, but now it is starting to unravel.
BUT, the deal did not include us, We the People! FUBO! FURINOs!
Naw CON, I left the painting for you and your crib. You can hang it on the wall next to your Obama “certified” 50 footer (illegal alien slang) birf certificate.
Not that I've heard. He's never been a Democrat either has he.
Why should we believe in the legitimacy of opinions of people who imagine that LEFTWINGTARDS are actually RINOS, when in reality RINOS are just Democrats who've run and won office as Republicans in overwhelmingly Democrat districts and states. The two are different ~ misuse of the term RINO only undercuts your position in the grand debate of our time.
Malkin, the same as any other "anchor baby", presumably loved and respected her parents when growing up. That gives her a divided loyalty. Besides her folks were just like Obama's babydaddy ~ people who came here as students and wanted to extend their stay indefinitely.
No doubt Michelle RELATES to the circumstance.
Now, is Michelle running for President Hey, can she? Tell us. And legal sufficiency isn't what we are after when it comes to Natural Born ~ right? You might not think it's much of a question ~ but the real issue here is do Democrats believe in law, or is it every man for himself, and what comes after that. Frankly, there's very little evidence that any Democrat these days can be considered law abiding. Look at John Edwards? Look at the Algore, and his kid the doper. Look at ..... well, Bill Clinton's step dad ~ one of 'em anyway.
These people are natural born criminals. Do you really think it in the interest of America that you ask everybody else to trust them?
Gas is over $4 a gallon here, and $5 a gallon elsewhere, and every body's home lost half its value, and the nation is in a mess all because too many people trust Democrats.
I say LESS TRUST, MORE EVIDENCE ~ this is a start. We now know who two witnesses to Obama's birth may have been. Tremendous improvement, of course, but given what's gone on before it's really not enough. Who is LEE.
This is a sad but accurate analysis of the state of contemporary liberalism.
I don't disagree, but politicians are politicians. All are afraid to completely smack down anyone they perceive to be part of their base - especially when some of those politicians are either running for President or have a favorite candidate who is.
Still, the vast majority of conservatives did not buy into birther craziness.
No man could do this alone. Our elected representatives at every level, our courts at every level, our Media, and our President had to work together to make this happen.
The idea that "born in [a U.S. state] qualifies one to run for and assume the office of President" is not a new idea. It may be an open question, but it's not like the idea is a new idea developed solely so Obama could run for President.
And the constitution itself contains a direct recognition of the subsisting common law principle, in the section which defines the qualification of the President. “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President,” &c. The only standard which then existed, of a natural born citizen, was the rule of the common law, and no different standard has been adopted since. Suppose a person should be elected President who was native born, but of alien parents, could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the constitution? I think not. -- Lynch v. Clark (1844)
Under the presidential qualification clause of the Constitution, only “natural-born” citizens are qualified for this highest office. It is clear enough that native-born citizens are eligible and that naturalized citizens are not. -- Charles Gordon, Who Can Be President Of The United States: The Unresolved Enigma, 28 MD L. Rev. 1,1 (1968).
Still, the vast majority of conservatives did not buy into birther craziness....
Really?
In a shocking finding, more than half of GOP primary voters believe President Barack Obama was not born in the United States, according to a new poll.
Fifty-one percent of 400 Republican primary voters surveyed nationwide by Public Policy Polling said they ascribe to the controversial birther conspiracy theory
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49554.html#ixzz1L7u8RrYa
I think you are confounding a demand for certitude in evidence for something you believe to be "birtherism" whichis presumably looking for evidence of a conspiracy.
Hardly the case. The big issue with Obama's birth has been "What Is The Truth" and "Who Are The Witnesses".
Turns out folks have spent three years looking for some witness to his birth other than his aunt (who may or may not have mispoke when she said she was there).
Obama, if he had the "names" of the folks who signed his birth certificate could have called the dispute on that question THREE YEARS AGO.
He didn't. The suggestion now is that he may have had a long form counterfeited, or that he didn't know there was a difference between "long and short". I'd prefer that he had something counterfeited than that he be a total idiot.
Too many Conservatives want us to believe that Obama can think, and plan, and do something besides go to parties. Yet, he took three years proving to us HE KNOWS NOTHINK.
Some of them are still around and they either saw me birthed or they saw me as a baby in the hospital with my mother.
Then within a few days there were dozens of neighbors ~ most of whom were relatives of some kind ~ and then 6 months later I was taken by my mother back to DC where dozens of the neighbors and a remarkable number of folks with the highest of security clearances (within the system in place at the time) saw me.
So, I've got a big family ~ Obama had a smaller family, but the principle is the same.
There's a shortage in WITNESSES in his case.
There’s a shortage in WITNESSES in his case....
Yeah, and for the ones that are still around we would need Dr. Doolittle to translate.
What you talk'n about Willis? LoL.
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