Birth certificate conflicts with father's real birthday?

World Net Daily ^ | April 30, 2011 | Art Moore

[Brown Deer]

Newly released immigration documents indicate Obama Sr. was 2 years older

Overshadowed by reaction to the release of Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate was the unearthing of half-century-old files that cast doubt on whether the age of the president's father indicated on the Hawaii document is accurate.

The applications, memos and other documents from the Immigration and Naturalization Service acquired in a Freedom of Information Act request by Heather Smathers of the Arizona Independent – which indicate Barack Obama Sr. would have been 27 at the time of his son's birth, not 25 – also suggest that the president's father did not leave the islands from the time of his August 1959 arrival until he departed for graduate studies at Harvard in June 1962.

[Brown Deer]

“any woman who might lawfully be naturalized under existing laws, married, or shall be married to a citizen of the United States, shall be deemed and taken to be a citizen.” [Act of February 10, 1855, 10 Stat. 604, section 2]

Every President born before the adoption of the Constitution was eligible because of the grandfather clause of Article 2, Section 1 :

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

[True Republican Patriot]

Dead Ringer! That’s for sure! But still, there are too many claims that the Basshole was born in Kenya, inluding a YouTube Video by the Wasatch, herself, Michelle, the Grandmother, and numerous News Articles when he was elected Senator in that stolen Election of 2004!

[Brown Deer]

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/07/breaking-stanley-ann-dunhamobamasoetoro.html

[Grunthor]

There you go introducing logic and reason into the mix.

[sono]

But POTUS is a “Constitutional Law Professor” ...

/sarc

[Maverick68]

I pray the scum in the White House is shamed and thrown into the streets by his own Party....

[a fool in paradise]

So now we need to see Obama’s daddy’s BC?

[is_is]

in his defense.....he couldn’t admit to impregnating a white girl in that day and age.....Hawaii or not

[justiceseeker93]

I wouldn't make too big an issue merely about Obama Sr.'s age being two years off on his BC. A father's age on a BC would be obtained simply by asking the mother if the father isn't present at the time of the child's birth. In this case, the mother might not have remembered correctly or remembered an incorrect age that Obama Sr. could easily have told her. That's assuming, of course, that this BC was bona fide and made shortly after Obama II's birth in Hawaii.

It's the father's race, designated as "African," that's much more problematic in analyzing the BC's authenticity or lack thereof. As pointed out previously, the usual bureaucratic racial designation in 1961 pertaining to Obama Sr. would be "Negro" or "colored."

[rawcatslyentist]

>"I want to see the Birth Certificate he found among his mother’s belongings, the one his mother submitted for his entrance into the school system and the one he used to obtain his passport."

So Stinky still isn't qualified for Kindergarten!

[Brown Deer]

If she not only knew his middle name and the exact spelling of his complete name, as well as carrying his child for nine months, she also knew his age and plenty of other details about him!

[rawcatslyentist]

I want to see that (*)^() OFF of US media, and awaiting sentencing!

[SatinDoll]

Yep. I knew it when I saw the time of birth, 7:24 pm.

The time of birth is EXACTLY identical to the one on Lucas Smith’s copy of the Obama birth certificate from Coast Hospital, Mombassa, Kenya.

Figure the odds! Someone in the White House is laughing out loud, I’m sure.

[rawcatslyentist]

>"The criminal acts that have been committed cannot be swept under the rug. By doing so, we are damning our country to tyranny."

Either we follow the rule of law (Our Constitution), or the whims of despotic tyrants!

[justiceseeker93]

If she not only knew his middle name and the exact spelling of his complete name, as well as carrying his child for nine months, she also knew his age and plenty of other details about him!

Maybe you're assuming too much. We know that Obama Sr. was known for his promiscuity and polygamy. I'm sure he wasn't honest all the time with what he told his multiple women. And SAD, young as she was at the time, probably wasn't interested in investigating his background in any detail. They were just comrades in a common socialist cause.

[TimPatriot]

They are continuing to hide his real Birth Certificate, most probably because the real Father is “Frank Marshall Davis,”

Even if "Uncle Frank" isn't on the real cert, I have always thought that for someone who supposedly didn't have any responsibility for young Barry, Frank sure assumed a very big fatherly mentor role from age 10-18. Why would he do that, unless, of course, he thought Barry was his son.

[BladeBryan]

a Natural Born Citizen http://www.birthers.org/USC/Vattel.html Before the Constitution the closest reference we have to Natural Born Citizen is from the legal treatise “the Law of Nations,” written by Emerich de Vattel in 1758. [...]

The Vattel vs. Blackstone question was settled over a hundred years ago in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark. Since then, sources on American law have uniformly held that native-born citizens are natural-born citizens, at least for birth after the adoption of the 14'th Amendment.

Obama does not need to re-argue settled matters. No source from his lifetime stated any doubt that native-born citizens are Article II natural-born citizens. Of course that changed in 2008 when Obama because a candidate, and people dug up the long-dead theory just to argue that Obama cannot be president Obama. The article from birthers.org is one of those.

The one court that directly addressed the question in an Obama eligibility case is the Court of Appeals of Indiana, in Ankeny v. Daniels. A three-judge panel unanimous opined: “Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are ‘natural born Citizens’ for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”

[Scanian]

Plus, they timed the release to coincide with the OBL operation. Fantastic that they gothim but not fantastic that they buried the body at sea.

Zer0 uses diversions to cover other diversions. And those diversions to cover incompetence.

Sorry, I don’t believe a g.d. thing he says. Nothing.

[xzins]

You are correct. Both parents must already be citizens for the offspring to be natural born.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Deep Vattel debate here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2712725/posts?page=193#193