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NATO Says Qaddafi's Sixth Son, Three Grandsons Killed in Airstrike
Foxnews.com ^ | 4/30.2011

Posted on 04/30/2011 4:08:36 PM PDT by The Chief

Almost got Qaddafi!

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaddafi; libya; nato; noflyzone; obama; obamaswar; qaddafi; regimechange
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To: narses

nope, the family home is not a military target. But like a hospital, a protected location loses protected status when a military target is hiding there.

See, I can say it’s an orphanage and put a sign out saying “orphanage” but if I use it for assembling bombs, it loses its protected status, now do you understand


41 posted on 04/30/2011 5:05:27 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Liberals don't care, hell I've heard them justify the killing of Nicholas II’s children after the Russian Revolution. When it's a Comrade in charge they are fine with bloodshed.
42 posted on 04/30/2011 5:06:11 PM PDT by redk
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To: yldstrk

So the fact that it is his home no longer matters? When did the Laws of War change? How is this a Just War?


43 posted on 04/30/2011 5:06:48 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: Del Rapier
>>>>>>>Besides the way the war on terror is going,most Muslim countries will either break for actual freedom or the despots we tolerate will eventually back the terrorists<<<<<<<<<<<

Muslims do not exist politcaly as individuals, only as a group. Uma does not subscribe to notions of Western democracy. Lebanon before civil war and Libya are closest you can get to democracy in a Muslim state. Turkish "democracy" is only for the show.

Let's say for arguments sake, that a Muslim state decides to follow your advice and imports American model of democracy and elects president.Three years later, new democratically elected president wages war without getting approval from the newly established Congress, in violation of newly adopted Constitution.

How would you call such system - Democratic or Dictatorship? How you would call such president - democratic or dictator?

What would be our remedy then - bombing their tv stations so their President could not deliver his speech, murdering their civilians or offing such president?

I believe that you can see the mud Barakah Hussein Al Amriki has dragged U.S. into.

44 posted on 04/30/2011 5:07:17 PM PDT by DTA (U.S. CENTCOM vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Ex hippie

your analysis leaves something to be desired.

The military target was Gaddafi. (Rightly or wrongly, I happen to think we have no business in this) Gaddafi was using his innocent grandchildren as human shields. THAT IS THE WAR CRIME RIGHT THERE


45 posted on 04/30/2011 5:08:01 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

He did a better job than we did. And when Israel loses more than that million as the nukes start popping, will you cry as much?

Donald Rumsfeld thought we could breeze in and use that as a base to contain Iran, but that hasn’t happened, has it?


46 posted on 04/30/2011 5:08:53 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: narses

Gadaffi has no safe zone. He is a military target where ever he goes. HE KNEW THIS. He was protected by human shields, his own grandchildren. THAT IS A WAR CRIME. furthermore THAT IS DEPRAVED


47 posted on 04/30/2011 5:10:57 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Gondring

Guess what?

Iran is surrounded. Yeah, it was a good strategy. It is at checkmate.


48 posted on 04/30/2011 5:12:42 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
>>>>>>Gadaffi has no safe zone. He is a military target where ever he goes. <<<<<<<<<<<

Are Barakah Hussein Al Amriki, Sarkozy and Csmeron military targets?

49 posted on 04/30/2011 5:19:29 PM PDT by DTA (U.S. CENTCOM vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: penelopesire

Great analysis...accurate and to the point!!


50 posted on 04/30/2011 5:31:23 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Where is the Great Santini NOW when we need him?)
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To: redk

Yeah, they will even lie about atrocities..like the journalist that went to Soviet Union when the famine was on and came back and said, “no one is dying, everything is fine.”


51 posted on 04/30/2011 5:32:51 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Where is the Great Santini NOW when we need him?)
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To: yldstrk

the analysis is accurate!

I am not saying we should NOT have done that..its just that they1) screwed it up and didn’t get the target 2) had the collateral damage and bombing a residential area

The reason I brought this up was that if it had been Bush, we would NEVER hear the end of it...Now, nothing will be said. My point on the analysis was that these were the points that the left harps on!


52 posted on 04/30/2011 5:36:17 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Where is the Great Santini NOW when we need him?)
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To: yldstrk

“The military target was Gaddafi.”

Really? When did the chief of state become a military target? What theory of war supports that belief?


53 posted on 04/30/2011 5:47:43 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: reagan_fanatic
We have no business being in this conflict - none.

This will come back to haunt us. Big time.



Agree 100% on your first statement and pray your second statement does not come to pass, but I'm afraid it might.

His 3 grandchildren had nothing to do with this; I think I am going to be sick.
54 posted on 04/30/2011 6:05:05 PM PDT by saltlick
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To: The Chief

Were these folks flying aircraft? Were they attacking other civilians? Were they in a battle zone?


55 posted on 04/30/2011 6:11:07 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Is Trump a Stalking Horse for Guiliani?)
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To: Churchillspirit
The last time the US killed some of Gaddafi’s family, he went to ground and laid low for years.

That was then. This is now. He's an old man now, and he knows that death awaits him soon, whether from NATO or natural causes. If it were me, and somebody had killed a bunch of my kids and grandkids, I would be totally focused on making them pay for that, without regard for my own survival.

56 posted on 04/30/2011 6:19:37 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: The Chief

Every leader is surrounded by 300-1000 core supporters. In dictatorships, these are the key people who hold high level positions, such as head of security, senior general of the army, etc. Their positions of power and wealth depend on their collective support leader. There is an outer circle, men whose wealth depends on the leader.

Any “leader” can be toppled when their core support ends. When their circle sees more advantage for themselves by abandoning the leader. This maxim was shown in Nixon; in Haiti; in Egypt; in Tunisia.

Qaddifi will be gone in two hours if every villa along the Mediterranean coast of his supporters is attacked. Actually, it has more impact if every third villa gets a missile (less expensive, and greater worry).

The key concept is that his inner and outer circles have to see that their best choice is with a different leader. A vacuum is never a viable alternative. But Quaddaffi wil leave only when his supporters see their best options somewhere else.


57 posted on 04/30/2011 6:24:45 PM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: The Chief
We don't know the gender of the grandkids, but if there's several male youngsters killed including the son, the Arab world will not take this killing lightly, including those still on our side, or the uncommitted. Sons have an almost mystical presence in the Islam world.

I have a feeling this will outrage the Saudis who hold the key to our oil.

Obama bowed low to his Islam master/campaign treasurer, the Saudi king.....but he might as well have not bothered....his policies in the Middle East have now screwed everything up beyond repair.

Leni

58 posted on 04/30/2011 7:01:25 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Rennes Templar
Yeah right. How we and the Iraqis long for the safe days of Saddam.

Of course they don't...many of them LOVE the cash we hand out, since now they get to practice their deceit and extremism at the same time we're paying them!

And heck, buying stock in a defense contractor paid off well with all the transfer of taxpayer funds.

And I suppose all the families broken up by year after year of war, using National Guard and Reserve troops has been SO worth it.

But when all is said and done, despite having Iraqi friends, I am of the opinion that giving American lives and American tax dollars for "democracy" for a people who didn't ask for it and who might "democratically" decide that we're the enemy is just not something that's our federal government's business doing, unless it's in our interests--

--such as taking the oil or whatever. :-)

59 posted on 04/30/2011 7:05:24 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: saltus

Excellent analysis!


60 posted on 04/30/2011 7:06:44 PM PDT by Don Carlos (Don't tell mom I'm running for congress. She thinks I still play piano in a whorehouse.)
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