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Fox News: 9 Americans killed by Afghan were NOT allowed to have loaded weapons!

Posted on 04/30/2011 6:38:31 AM PDT by macquire

Listening to Col David Hunt (Retired) on Fox right now explaining how the rules of engagement did not permit the Americans the Afghan pilot killed to have loaded weapons on base. The angry pilot simply shot them execution style after he left the meeting and retrieved a loaded firearm from his office.

Have any of you heard this before? I am outraged.

How do you fight a war with one hand tied behind your back?


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: Travis McGee

You would think Government would learn from their mistakes like normal humans do.


21 posted on 04/30/2011 6:56:50 AM PDT by omega4179
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To: macquire

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=5pfBUUZNbFM


22 posted on 04/30/2011 6:57:33 AM PDT by scorchedearther
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To: macquire

They still should have rushed the Muslim killer who was obviously inspired by Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan.

They better be able to carry loaded sidearms now.


23 posted on 04/30/2011 6:57:54 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: macquire

Bring all the troops home NOW, or remove Zero from office, indict him as a foreign agent, convict him and give him the usual punishment for spies.


24 posted on 04/30/2011 6:58:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: macquire

Oh, and since granted citizenship to THREE CONVICTED TERRORISTS... we elected our own terrorist.


25 posted on 04/30/2011 6:58:06 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: macquire

BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW


26 posted on 04/30/2011 6:58:13 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: macquire
While in Israel, I saw a guy get yelled at for not having his weapon. We were just driving through the city and had to stop at a security area.

The guard was yelling, Where is your weapon!? Why are you not carrying it? Over and over.

The Israelis are not fools. Every home and just about every car will have a weapon in it. And, it will be loaded.

They do not have the luxury of all the American Leftist PC crap. They have to play to win. And it is no joke.

27 posted on 04/30/2011 6:58:22 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

It is verified. Free Republic was flipping out last summer over it.


28 posted on 04/30/2011 6:59:45 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine

The Obama administration has a lot of innocent military blood on their hands both here at home and overseas.

Obama only feigns concern over the military.

Obama hates the military, harbors a hatred and bitterness toward our great country.

Obama makes Jimmy Carter look like an uber patriot by comparison.


29 posted on 04/30/2011 7:01:14 AM PDT by scorchedearther
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To: dennisw
Hasan may have suggested the treasonous ROE.
Certainly, his PROTECTORS have.

"Army Major (Hasan) Played Role in Presidential (Obama) Transition"

30 posted on 04/30/2011 7:01:37 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: macquire

If by “loaded” he means with a round chambered, I had thought that - except for the MP’s weapons— it is pretty much SOP to leave a weapon’s chamber empty while inside a rear area US military base. And it’s been that way for maybe the last 100 years.


31 posted on 04/30/2011 7:03:50 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: macquire

This is called green status for weapons. Unloaded. Amber status is common for smaller FOBs and outposts. Magazine loaded, but no rounds chambered. Red status is pretty much only for patrols or direct action. Locked and loaded.

At a larger base, they were no doubt on green status. I don’t know if these nine were being complacent or not, but even a trained shooter can be too distracted to load quickly and correctly while being ambushed at close range.


32 posted on 04/30/2011 7:04:14 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: 240B

We can learn from Israel’s non PC style, but not with O in power.


33 posted on 04/30/2011 7:04:55 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: macquire

If this is true, it is beyond outrageous. Why would they not be allowed to have a weapon? Whose decision would that be?


34 posted on 04/30/2011 7:06:18 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: macquire

These are liberal “facts.” People who join the military are kids of lower intelligence. They’re conservative. They can’t be trusted to drink, carry loaded weapons or vote. Liberals point to every accident as evidence that loaded guns kill people and that therefore all military should carry only unloaded guns. (My sister sat in on the autopsy of a base guard who was unloading his M16 properly while pointed into a sand filled barrel. It discharged and the ricochet killed him. Next order up? All base guards were to carry their M16’s unloaded. This was in the early ‘70’s. These were SAC bases with nuclear weapons.)

Given that we’re at war and the people on “our side” might turn on us at any moment, I think the military should risk the occasional accident as it will kill far fewer than an enemy in a “friendly” uniform.


35 posted on 04/30/2011 7:06:22 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: macquire
"Have any of you heard this before? I am outraged."

Yes. Ft. Hood, Texas. Major Hasan. He was shot down by civilians. Both Police Sgt. Kimberly Munley and Police Sr. Sgt. Mark Todd (both civilians) have variously been given credit for stopping the rampage. Why civilians? The soldiers on the base are not allowed to be armed!

36 posted on 04/30/2011 7:06:35 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: macquire
9 Americans killed by Afghan were NOT allowed to have loaded weapons

Disgusting beyond compare...

37 posted on 04/30/2011 7:06:40 AM PDT by SteamShovel (The RADIATION PIMPS...are RATS)
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To: Sooth2222

There is no ‘rear area’ in Afghanistan.


38 posted on 04/30/2011 7:07:24 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: mountainlion

I was at Pendleton at that time.....stoners were a huge problem; huge.


39 posted on 04/30/2011 7:08:06 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: macquire
I just ASSUMED when he was there that he would be carrying a sidearm.

I'm sure he is.

Depending on where these troops are located, they may have been on "weapons green" status.

It means you have your weapon and you have your magazines, but there is not a magazine loaded in the weapon.

Perhaps they may change the weapons status in light of this incident.

When I was on a small FOB and going outside the wire regularly (on an advise and train mission), we went to amber or red status during points of heightened security or after some big event had occurred.

40 posted on 04/30/2011 7:10:43 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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