Posted on 04/30/2011 6:38:31 AM PDT by macquire
Listening to Col David Hunt (Retired) on Fox right now explaining how the rules of engagement did not permit the Americans the Afghan pilot killed to have loaded weapons on base. The angry pilot simply shot them execution style after he left the meeting and retrieved a loaded firearm from his office.
Have any of you heard this before? I am outraged.
How do you fight a war with one hand tied behind your back?
You would think Government would learn from their mistakes like normal humans do.
They still should have rushed the Muslim killer who was obviously inspired by Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan.
They better be able to carry loaded sidearms now.
Bring all the troops home NOW, or remove Zero from office, indict him as a foreign agent, convict him and give him the usual punishment for spies.
Oh, and since granted citizenship to THREE CONVICTED TERRORISTS... we elected our own terrorist.
BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW
The guard was yelling, Where is your weapon!? Why are you not carrying it? Over and over.
The Israelis are not fools. Every home and just about every car will have a weapon in it. And, it will be loaded.
They do not have the luxury of all the American Leftist PC crap. They have to play to win. And it is no joke.
It is verified. Free Republic was flipping out last summer over it.
The Obama administration has a lot of innocent military blood on their hands both here at home and overseas.
Obama only feigns concern over the military.
Obama hates the military, harbors a hatred and bitterness toward our great country.
Obama makes Jimmy Carter look like an uber patriot by comparison.
"Army Major (Hasan) Played Role in Presidential (Obama) Transition"
If by “loaded” he means with a round chambered, I had thought that - except for the MP’s weapons— it is pretty much SOP to leave a weapon’s chamber empty while inside a rear area US military base. And it’s been that way for maybe the last 100 years.
This is called green status for weapons. Unloaded. Amber status is common for smaller FOBs and outposts. Magazine loaded, but no rounds chambered. Red status is pretty much only for patrols or direct action. Locked and loaded.
At a larger base, they were no doubt on green status. I don’t know if these nine were being complacent or not, but even a trained shooter can be too distracted to load quickly and correctly while being ambushed at close range.
We can learn from Israel’s non PC style, but not with O in power.
If this is true, it is beyond outrageous. Why would they not be allowed to have a weapon? Whose decision would that be?
These are liberal facts. People who join the military are kids of lower intelligence. Theyre conservative. They cant be trusted to drink, carry loaded weapons or vote. Liberals point to every accident as evidence that loaded guns kill people and that therefore all military should carry only unloaded guns. (My sister sat in on the autopsy of a base guard who was unloading his M16 properly while pointed into a sand filled barrel. It discharged and the ricochet killed him. Next order up? All base guards were to carry their M16s unloaded. This was in the early 70s. These were SAC bases with nuclear weapons.)
Given that were at war and the people on our side might turn on us at any moment, I think the military should risk the occasional accident as it will kill far fewer than an enemy in a friendly uniform.
Yes. Ft. Hood, Texas. Major Hasan. He was shot down by civilians. Both Police Sgt. Kimberly Munley and Police Sr. Sgt. Mark Todd (both civilians) have variously been given credit for stopping the rampage. Why civilians? The soldiers on the base are not allowed to be armed!
Disgusting beyond compare...
There is no ‘rear area’ in Afghanistan.
I was at Pendleton at that time.....stoners were a huge problem; huge.
I'm sure he is.
Depending on where these troops are located, they may have been on "weapons green" status.
It means you have your weapon and you have your magazines, but there is not a magazine loaded in the weapon.
Perhaps they may change the weapons status in light of this incident.
When I was on a small FOB and going outside the wire regularly (on an advise and train mission), we went to amber or red status during points of heightened security or after some big event had occurred.
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