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Fox News: 9 Americans killed by Afghan were NOT allowed to have loaded weapons!

Posted on 04/30/2011 6:38:31 AM PDT by macquire

Listening to Col David Hunt (Retired) on Fox right now explaining how the rules of engagement did not permit the Americans the Afghan pilot killed to have loaded weapons on base. The angry pilot simply shot them execution style after he left the meeting and retrieved a loaded firearm from his office.

Have any of you heard this before? I am outraged.

How do you fight a war with one hand tied behind your back?


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: mylife
"Hell, I cut the grass with a pistol in my pocket."

LOL Now that you mention it, I'm actually posting with my carry pistol on my belt(behind the back) right now. I pity any Troll that comes a callin' this morning!

101 posted on 04/30/2011 8:31:29 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: macquire
"How do you fight a war with one hand tied behind your back? "

If we fought with both hands untied, wars would end quickly in our favor, and it would not be Fair.

102 posted on 04/30/2011 8:32:12 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I was at Sharana in the beginning, then Jalalabad. Folks running around all the time in red would have scared me.

But pulling out the magazine? No thanks. A gun with no round in the chamber is plenty safe enough for my tastes.

Now that I’m retired, I normally carry a revolver when I carry. The only safety is the trigger - don’t pull it if you don’t want a bang. That works for me, but I don’t know if I want a bunch of 18 year olds doing that 24/7. And I know for absolute certain that I wouldn’t want some of the other old officers who deployed with me to walk everywhere with a gun ready to fire. I grew up with guns, but some of them did not.

Heck, I never felt totally comfortable with the M-4...just didn’t have enough time with it to truly feel right.


103 posted on 04/30/2011 8:36:05 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: macquire

The first rule of fighting is “Never let your guard down”.


104 posted on 04/30/2011 8:38:17 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: scorchedearther

In the 80’s and 90’s I used to perform services on navy ships in port, redying for deployment, and at sea. When in port, the officer at the plank who secures who gets permission to board has a 45 caliber sidearm. Not once did I ever see the magazine in the weapon.


105 posted on 04/30/2011 8:38:40 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: P-Marlowe

Obama reminds me of Saddam Heussein more and more every day. Think about their behaviors in detail. They are identical in many ways.


106 posted on 04/30/2011 8:40:57 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: KoRn

107 posted on 04/30/2011 8:43:32 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Future Snake Eater

“A FOB in the Arghendab River Valley or in the middle of Baghdad is NOT Colorado “

Never been near the military have you? Just all mouth. An Internet commando. Read about it, talk about it on Airsoft web sites and now you think you’re a veteran.

You insult the military when you say they cannot be trusted to have guns yet they can be trusted to fight with them. That is a very liberal mindset.

They are dying from lack of firepower but you think that’s OK because at least it was the enemy that killed them and not one of their own.

To be a liberal you must believe cops and the military can be ordered to use a weapon and will do so with Superman like capabilities but those same individuals cannot be trusted around a gun otherwise.

To be a liberal you must believe that people cannot be trusted with firearms but once they put on a badge or ordered to fight they are gun slinging heroes.

Your own statement is pure bullsh*t. You said a bunch of people, military troops, with rifles and handguns cannot be trusted as all kinds of people would be killed. You said taking away their bullets “saved many, many lives”.

Well, a bunch of those same people on a base or in society is still that same bunch of people. What, do you think the military has mutants they destroy when the war is over? Those troops are the very same people that came from and will return to Colorado. I don’t see them blowing away each other in Colorado. I am around people every day with guns, rifles even. We haven’t lost a single soul. Imagine that. All those veterans and active duty members that you say cannot be trusted with live weapons on base do so every day in their personal lives and no one gets killed. Over 200 people can get together on a range, shoot hundreds of thousands of rounds all weekend long, carry concealed weapons to and from the range, and even drive in maddening traffic. Yet, no one gets killed.
Of course, since you are slinging liberal tripe of ignorance, I know where you are going with this. You want to say there is stress and mental instability on a base; that the troops are high strung and will act out and make stupid mistakes and kill each other. We all know that liberals believe the mere presence of a firearm drives people into mad killers or clumsy fools and that the entire military suffers from PTSD and the two cannot be trusted together on a base. That’s pure liberal Bulls*t!


108 posted on 04/30/2011 8:45:35 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: macquire

I carry everyday and there is always a full mag and one in the pipe. A war zone unarmed? Pathetic. RIP soldiers. FUBO


109 posted on 04/30/2011 8:49:23 AM PDT by Rick66 (Don't dislike me cause I live in Massholechusetts.)
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To: yldstrk

WTF!!!


110 posted on 04/30/2011 8:49:40 AM PDT by Roklok
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To: P-Marlowe

I really get pissed at people still supporting this war. Why should ANYONE lose a life, a family member, wife, husband, sister, brother, etc - for this crap?

No way - bring them all home immediately and let these barbarians kill each other all they want.


111 posted on 04/30/2011 8:50:49 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: macquire

that’s the way it was when I was in Vietnam. No loaded weapons on base. Red wooden blocks in the magazine well, with a tit on the end that fit between the round and the bolt.

we just don’t learn....


112 posted on 04/30/2011 9:03:48 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: tongue-tied
My hearty congratulations to you and my sincere and heartfelt thanks to you for your service.

-From the "brat" of another retired career Navy officer.

113 posted on 04/30/2011 9:10:15 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Travis McGee

Shades of Viet Nam when President Johnson came visiting. I knew a lot of Grunts who would have shot him if they had the chance.


114 posted on 04/30/2011 9:10:22 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are .)
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To: CodeToad; Future Snake Eater
Never been near the military have you? Just all mouth. An Internet commando. Read about it, talk about it on Airsoft web sites and now you think you’re a veteran.

Future Snake Eater has served in both theaters - Iraq and Afghanistan.

115 posted on 04/30/2011 9:13:37 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Allegra

Doubt it. Talks like a kid that’s read alot on airsoft forums.


116 posted on 04/30/2011 9:19:20 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Sooth2222

Not one in the chamber but a fully loaded magazine. What’;s that a split second delay? Still better than no ammo at all.


117 posted on 04/30/2011 9:20:31 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: CodeToad
Doubt it. Talks like a kid that’s read alot on airsoft forums.

He was here in Baghdad for a tour at the same time I was here.

'Course, I've been here for years...

I don't want to speak for him, but I can understand his frustration at times at people popping off on here when they don't understand the reality.

118 posted on 04/30/2011 9:23:41 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: macquire
Will someone explain to me why we do NOT have 300 Generals bitching about Obama like we did about Bush?

Will someone explain to me why I am NOT seeing 4 and 5 star generals resigning over these dumba$$ ROEs?

You cannot fight, much less, win a war with an unloaded gun Mr. Dumba$$ President.

Mr. Dumba$$ President, the Chicago Police Force carries sidearms on the streets of Chicago every single day and our Troops, who are behind enemy lines do NOT? Are you a moron Mr. Dumba$$ President? Nevermind, Mr. Dumba$$ President, the question was rhetorical. I know the answer, as do millions of Americans.

Mr. Dumbass President, you disgust me. I will fire you come November, 2012.

119 posted on 04/30/2011 9:27:26 AM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: macquire

SORRY FOR THE CAPS, BUT TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT...

I WAS ASSIGNED TO KABUL AIRPORT IN 2010. WE CARRIED WEAPONS AND LOADED MAGAZINES, BUT WE WERE NOT PERMITTED TO LOCK MAGAZINES INTO THE WEAPONS.

WE HAD UNLOADED WEAPONS. THAT WAS THE REG.


120 posted on 04/30/2011 9:29:26 AM PDT by Ordinary_American
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