Posted on 04/27/2011 7:24:09 AM PDT by SonsOfLibertyII
No reason to rush and make knee jerk reactions lets have a couple document experts examine the original first just to confirm and verify. By failing to release it when it initially became an issue, anything now produced merits much more intense scrutiny. Obamas people have had over 3 years to FORGE 336 characters/certificate marks. Even for a D student you can do a bang up job if you have available a free 3 days per letter to work on forging a document.
I say .. TAKE IT AT IT’S FACE
When they had a senate hearing on McCain, the only ... ONLY test was that he was born of American parents..
NOW we should gather our forces and DEMAND that the news papers follow up on this.
What is good for the republican is good for the democrat and Obama does not pass the test
HE must be held accountable. His father was a kenyan this says .. I say take it on it’s face.
he MUST leave now!
Was Security Paper used in 1961? My 1960 BC is on White paper with black ink. And where is the official State Seal?
As I understand it Dunham's age is only a factor if he was born outside the US.
Compare the Nordyke BC with Obama’s. They were born 7 days apart. However, there are two different Local Registrar’s listed. I don’t know about Honolulu, but my county has had only Registrar at a time, EVER. I guess it’s possible Honolulu had more than one in August 1961...
nice catch
but it doesnt matter
what matters now is that equally the law is applied to republicans and democrats
John McCain was a NBC because he was born of american parents
Obama was NOT
drudge report
WND found him .. he died
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292217
wife works for the state .. education dept
>Because that’s not a factor that makes one ineligible.<
That is the factor that makes the whole case and always has.
His father was not an american citizen. therefore Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen
http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsl&fileName=001/llsl001.db&recNum=227
Please, I apologize
But can you explain this to me in more in depth terms. I am trying like hell to understand this.
This new thing is not a long form. It is (another) abstract.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711155/posts?q=1&;page=1101
Check the last couple of pp of the CNN long thread above. It is not at all like the long forms, for instance, of the Nordyke twins.
It has “a” doctor’s name. He’s being looked up now. No verification as of yet.
Here’s what Hoosiermama explained on the long CNN thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711155/posts?page=1244
When we had the FR cruises I contacted the clerk where I was born to get my BC. She asked which one I wanted. I replied give me one of each. After I got home realized that my moms name, dads name, date of birth and my own name were all wrong.
So I went to the office with all three in hand thinking Id have a problem. Clerk proceeded to get the big book out with original in it. I looked at it showed her where the typist had misread the original script writing and the one typo. (Dad was with me to confirm my date of birth. She proceeded to enter the correct information in her computer and reprinted the short form, long form and a credit card size copy on official paper, then stamped and signed it.
What I had in my pocket was just what the typist put into her computer.
What we are looking at is what the clerk chose to put into the computer and print out. It is NOT A PHOTO COPY OF THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT. It is what BO or his minion choose to make public. Its been stamped with the abstract stamp to indicate that material has been left out. He could print it on toilet paper if stamped and signed its a form of a BC....BUT the ABSTRACT stamp indicates that material has been condensed, is not complete.
AGAIN I ask: If he has made this public, by law is the source material that this document was created from available to the public?
Page 1 of the certificate looks like an IBM Selectric Ball was used. The IBM Selectric was introduced to the world on July 31, 1961. How did Hawaii have time to order and receive it in the middle of the Pacific Ocean 5 days later? I would think that the requisition in any State office would take more than 90 days.
Do I smell an odor here?
Oh, please. For years, people have repeatedly said they wanted a Certificate of Live Birth instead of a Certification. Now they have it.
OK...I’m looking at the birth certificate. I looked at a birth certificate that was posted online from someone who was born in 1963. I was looking at the pencil/pen marks and it seems like the “Obama Clan” took a copy of this one and modified it. Below are the links. Let me know what you think.
the 1963 birth certificate: http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg
Obama’s certificate: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
OK...I’m looking at the birth certificate. I looked at a birth certificate that was posted online from someone who was born in 1963. I was looking at the pencil/pen marks and it seems like the “Obama Clan” took a copy of this one and modified it. Below are the links. Let me know what you think.
the 1963 birth certificate: http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg
Obama’s certificate: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
Birthers make it up as they go along. This example is from 1904:
You are insightful. Putting African on the birth certificate had more prestige. Very few interracial marriages back then so it seemed more legit for a white woman to marry an exotic African named Obama than a black man from America. Which is what she did anyway.
I know boolean logic is especially hard for logic-challenged birthers, but the stamp reads true copy or abstract
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Obama was born in Hawaii. Get over it.
Frank R. is spot on.
Frank R. is spot on.
They'll never let it go, true enough, but don't a few of us have to weigh in to at least try to defend the appeared sanity of the forum?
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