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Obama Birth Certificate Forgery – Don’t believe it yet. Verify 1st

Posted on 04/27/2011 7:24:09 AM PDT by SonsOfLibertyII

No reason to rush and make knee jerk reactions lets have a couple document experts examine the original first just to confirm and verify. By failing to release it when it initially became an issue, anything now produced merits much more intense scrutiny. Obama’s people have had over 3 years to FORGE 336 characters/certificate marks. Even for a D student you can do a bang up job if you have available a free 3 days per letter to work on forging a document.


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; colbfake; naturalborncitizen; obama; wrldsdmbstcnsprcy
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

I say .. TAKE IT AT IT’S FACE

When they had a senate hearing on McCain, the only ... ONLY test was that he was born of American parents..

NOW we should gather our forces and DEMAND that the news papers follow up on this.

What is good for the republican is good for the democrat and Obama does not pass the test

HE must be held accountable. His father was a kenyan this says .. I say take it on it’s face.
he MUST leave now!


121 posted on 04/27/2011 12:12:29 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Thermalseeker

Was Security Paper used in 1961? My 1960 BC is on White paper with black ink. And where is the official State Seal?


122 posted on 04/27/2011 12:40:36 PM PDT by curiousabout
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To: atc23
...since his mother was not old enough to confer citizenship at time of birth.

As I understand it Dunham's age is only a factor if he was born outside the US.

123 posted on 04/27/2011 1:09:40 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII; All

Compare the Nordyke BC with Obama’s. They were born 7 days apart. However, there are two different Local Registrar’s listed. I don’t know about Honolulu, but my county has had only Registrar at a time, EVER. I guess it’s possible Honolulu had more than one in August 1961...


124 posted on 04/27/2011 2:00:40 PM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

nice catch

but it doesnt matter

what matters now is that equally the law is applied to republicans and democrats

John McCain was a NBC because he was born of american parents

Obama was NOT


125 posted on 04/27/2011 2:10:18 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: illiac

drudge report

WND found him .. he died

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292217

wife works for the state .. education dept


126 posted on 04/27/2011 2:52:17 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: gdani

>Because that’s not a factor that makes one ineligible.<

That is the factor that makes the whole case and always has.

His father was not an american citizen. therefore Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen

http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsl&fileName=001/llsl001.db&recNum=227


127 posted on 04/27/2011 2:55:06 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Please, I apologize

But can you explain this to me in more in depth terms. I am trying like hell to understand this.


128 posted on 04/27/2011 2:57:37 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: TigerClaws

This new thing is not a long form. It is (another) abstract.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711155/posts?q=1&;page=1101

Check the last couple of pp of the CNN long thread above. It is not at all like the long forms, for instance, of the Nordyke twins.

It has “a” doctor’s name. He’s being looked up now. No verification as of yet.


129 posted on 04/27/2011 3:10:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: TigerClaws; hoosiermama; All

Here’s what Hoosiermama explained on the long CNN thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711155/posts?page=1244


When we had the FR cruises I contacted the clerk where I was born to get my BC. She asked which one I wanted. I replied give me one of each. After I got home realized that my mom’s name, dad’s name, date of birth and my own name were all wrong.

So I went to the office with all three in hand thinking I’d have a problem. Clerk proceeded to get the big book out with original in it. I looked at it showed her where the typist had misread the original script writing and the one typo. (Dad was with me to confirm my date of birth. She proceeded to enter the correct information in her computer and reprinted the short form, long form and a credit card size copy on official paper, then stamped and signed it.

What I had in my pocket was just what the typist put into her computer.

What we are looking at is what the clerk chose to put into the computer and print out. It is NOT A PHOTO COPY OF THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT. It is what BO or his minion choose to make public. It’s been stamped with the “abstract” stamp to indicate that material has been left out. He could print it on toilet paper if stamped and signed it’s a form of a BC....BUT the ABSTRACT stamp indicates that material has been condensed, is not complete.

AGAIN I ask: If he has made this public, by law is the source material that this document was created from available to the public?


130 posted on 04/27/2011 3:40:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

Page 1 of the certificate looks like an IBM Selectric Ball was used. The IBM Selectric was introduced to the world on July 31, 1961. How did Hawaii have time to order and receive it in the middle of the Pacific Ocean 5 days later? I would think that the requisition in any State office would take more than 90 days.

Do I smell an odor here?


131 posted on 04/27/2011 5:35:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education. TR)
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To: Missouri gal
First problem: It says “Certificate of Live Birth” at the top. In other words, NOT a birth certificate, but a NEW version of the invalid COLB we saw in ‘08 on the Daily Kos. How many COLB’s does it take?

Oh, please. For years, people have repeatedly said they wanted a Certificate of Live Birth instead of a Certification. Now they have it.

132 posted on 04/27/2011 5:39:42 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

OK...I’m looking at the birth certificate. I looked at a birth certificate that was posted online from someone who was born in 1963. I was looking at the pencil/pen marks and it seems like the “Obama Clan” took a copy of this one and modified it. Below are the links. Let me know what you think.

the 1963 birth certificate: http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg

Obama’s certificate: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf


133 posted on 04/27/2011 5:40:55 PM PDT by yama85 (birth certificate)
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To: SonsOfLibertyII

OK...I’m looking at the birth certificate. I looked at a birth certificate that was posted online from someone who was born in 1963. I was looking at the pencil/pen marks and it seems like the “Obama Clan” took a copy of this one and modified it. Below are the links. Let me know what you think.

the 1963 birth certificate: http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg

Obama’s certificate: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf


134 posted on 04/27/2011 5:42:34 PM PDT by yama85 (birth certificate)
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To: Auntie Mame
Security paper did not exist in 1961. This birth certificate is on security paper. Case closed.

Birthers make it up as they go along. This example is from 1904:


135 posted on 04/27/2011 5:46:35 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: EBH

You are insightful. Putting African on the birth certificate had more prestige. Very few interracial marriages back then so it seemed more legit for a white woman to marry an exotic African named Obama than a black man from America. Which is what she did anyway.


136 posted on 04/27/2011 5:53:16 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: little jeremiah
What we are looking at is what the clerk chose to put into the computer and print out. It is NOT A PHOTO COPY OF THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT. It is what BO or his minion choose to make public. It’s been stamped with the “abstract” stamp to indicate that material has been left out. He could print it on toilet paper if stamped and signed it’s a form of a BC....BUT the ABSTRACT stamp indicates that material has been condensed, is not complete.

I know boolean logic is especially hard for logic-challenged birthers, but the stamp reads true copy or abstract.

Obama was born in Hawaii. Get over it.

137 posted on 04/27/2011 5:55:25 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Kaslin; FrankR
PLEASE SEE FRED NERKS' LINK HERE at #1690

Frank R. is spot on.

138 posted on 04/27/2011 9:27:09 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Kaslin; FrankR
PLEASE SEE FRED NERKS' LINK HERE at #1690

Frank R. is spot on.

139 posted on 04/27/2011 9:27:44 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Grunthor
"Of course you are correct but you must realize that you just became an Obama staffer invading a conservative forum in order to fight the “true believers” on this issue. THey won’t let go. They won’t. They are best ignored."

They'll never let it go, true enough, but don't a few of us have to weigh in to at least try to defend the appeared sanity of the forum?

140 posted on 04/27/2011 9:32:08 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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