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CNN Investigation: Obama 'Birther' Claims Have No Merit [CNN Claims Case Closed]
Gary Tuchman ^ | April 25, 2011

Posted on 04/25/2011 8:55:15 PM PDT by Steelfish

CNN Investigation: Obama 'Birther' Claims Have No Merit See show times »

From Gary Tuchman, CNN April 25, 2011

A former Hawaii health officials tells CNN she has "no doubt" Obama was born in Honolulu Obama in 2008 produced a "certificate of live birth," which is legally accepted Various Obama family acquaintances remember the president's birth in 1961 Some critics of the president continue to express doubts about his country of birth

(CNN) -- Was Barack Obama really born in America? A new CNN investigation reveals what most analysts have been saying since the so-called "birther" controversy erupted during the 2008 presidential campaign: Obama was born in the state of Hawaii on August 4, 1961. Period.

Obama passes CNN birther investigation

While the president has made light of the controversy, the question remains political red meat for some of his critics. A recent CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll showed that nearly 75% of Americans believe Obama was definitely or probably born in the United States. More than four in 10 Republicans, however, believe he probably or definitely was not born in America.

The U.S. Constitution says only "natural born" citizens can become president -- a vague clause that some members of the birther movement contend disqualifies Obama because, they insist, he was born outside the United States. Skeptics contend, among other things, that Obama was born in his father's home country of Kenya. Potential GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump recently seized on the issue, saying he had doubts about Obama's background.

Dr. Chiyome Fukino, a former director of the Hawaii Department of Health and a Republican, told CNN in her most extensive comments to date that she has "no doubt" Obama was born in the state.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen
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To: Philsworld

Can you send a copy to Trump, also?


101 posted on 04/25/2011 11:26:12 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Plutarch

The COLB was held up and I tried to read it as best I could. Someone with better video equipment (I was just watching an older TV) can nail down all of those specifics (date; I believe he was born within 13 hours of Obama). I remembered 151-1961 would be at the top and the issue would be those last numbers.

Again, MSM tries to make the issue go away and likely gave away more ammunition! Certainly did with verification from the Hawaiian official who said the long form does exist.

Be looking for this to come out when someone who has the right equipment tracks it down. I spent 20 minutes playing and replaying the damn video and that was what I saw. I think they showed enough to give away that number as they likely didn’t know the importance. Remember Obama at first blacked it out.


102 posted on 04/25/2011 11:31:37 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: jcsjcm

There’s an up close shot of the certificate.

CNN claimed tonight that the COLB had been made “available to new media” to inspect.

When?

It’s only been shown on FactCheck (Obama’s group) and never independently examined. Even if a COLB from Hawaii it still doesn’t tell us what’s in the long form.

Hoping the upcoming book puts Obama in a corner where the MUST show it to continue his Presidency.

Perhaps a ‘Deep Throat’ will appear. Of course, these days the MSM JournaLists would run the guy off.


103 posted on 04/25/2011 11:36:49 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Steelfish
CNN is too funny for the following reason: CNN holds up an Obama “birth certificate” with the number blacked out and with no visible Hawaii seal, and then they expect us to accept it as a true Obama short form birth certificate. Does CNN think that we are idiots?

1. Such a document-—with the number blacked out and with NO visible seal-—would never be accepted in any court, yet CNN expects us average people to accept it as an authentic Obama short form birth certificate. If a CNN reporter cannot feel a RAISED seal, the document is useless. Give me a break.

2. NOTE It was probably downloaded from Obama’s Fight the Smears site if the number is blacked out.

3. Doesn't CNN get it? It is the RAISED seal that it is very important. If a person cannot feel a RAISED seal even though a person can see a seal, the document is not worth the paper it is printed on.

4. That is, when you download Obama’s birth certificate from his site, if the document had a RAISED seal the site of origin, the seal is now FLAT after the document is downloaded from the internet, because one cannot download a RAISED seal over the Internet, and one cannot download both sides of the birth certificate at the same time, front and back.

5.Let's not forget the FactCheck site: FactCheck also claims that it is displaying Obama’s short form birth certificate, the exact same one that we see on Obama’s Fight the Smear site.

6. I don't know about you, but to me, the Obama short form birth certificate at FactCheck does not look like the one we see at Obama’s Fight the Smears site, because for one thing, the FactCheck one has an obvious seal, while the Fight the Smears one does not seem to have a visible seal.

7. So, why do the two certificates appear to be so different, if they are supposed to be the exact, same certificate? Give me a break.

8. Dr. Fukino: I am getting sick and tired of this former high-priced clerk in the Hawaii Department-—I want to vomit every time I hear the Fukino name-—telling us over and over again that she has seen and examined Obama’s long form birth certificate and so she she can vouch for the fact that Obama was born in the United States. It seems that she is the only one in the whole Hawaii government bureaucracy who has seen Obama’s long form birth certificate. Why is that?

9. She irks me: What irks me is that Fukino takes it personal when we mere mortals thank her for her time, but we tell her that we still want to see Obama’s long form birth certificate for ourselves. The reason being that the longer Obama refuses to release his long form birth certificate to the public, the more the public has come to believe that Obama is hiding something on his long form birth certificate that he does not want us to see.

10. What also irks me is Fukino’s public indignation because we dare to question her integrity by still wanting to see Obama’s long form birth certificate even after Dr. Fukino has told the public over and over during the past two years that Obama was born in Hawaii and he is thus an American citizen.

11. Dear Fukino: We want to see Obama’s long form birth certificate to verify his parents names and his doctor and hospital names.

12. If you don't like it, that is tough. If you feel insulted that we still want to see Obama’s long form birth certificate even though you keep telling us over and over for the past two years that you have seen Obama’s long form birth certificate and Obama was born in Hawaii, again, that is tough.

13. Dear Fukino: I wish that Trump would come out and call you a liar so that you could SUE Trump in court.

14. But I bet you would never SUE Trump in court, because you know that you would have to produce a copy of Obama’s long form birth certificate in the discovery pre-trial, and you know you couldn't do it, because if you did and the certificate did show that Obama was born in Hawaii, the public would finally get its hands on a copy of Obama’s long form birth certificate and see the information that Obama does not want the public to see, information that could prove that Obama had been lying to the public about his past all these years.

15. So Fukino: Get lost. Show us Obama’s long form birth certificate or go disappear somewhere. Your word means nothing to us. You were just a high-priced clerk in the Hawaii government burearcracy who we don't trust as far as we could throw you. Which means we don't trust you and the other Hawaii government bureaucrats at all.

104 posted on 04/25/2011 11:37:30 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: FunkyZero
ONE MORE TIME.....

obama can never be considered "natural born" even if the birth was witnessed by the entire state of Hawaii. The fact that he was or may have been born in Hawaii is irrelevant at this point. Arguing about his birth certificate only draws attention away from the absolute fact that Obama is NOT qualified as he is NOT a natural born citizen by definition.
105 posted on 04/25/2011 11:37:32 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Philsworld

“Otherwise, you are a liar, plain and simple.”

He is. That’s what they do. Bless your heart - do you really think these guys want the truth or would report it even if it were shoved in front of their noses when it doesn’t suit their agenda?

So far, the only one who appreciates receiving such facts and information, who will publicly say so is Trump. Shame on the media and ambitious Republicans who perpetuate the lies.


106 posted on 04/25/2011 11:40:43 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: STARWISE
The seal — could it be on the back ? I can’t tell precisely.

I didn't keep a copy of many examples, but it looks like the stamp is on the back...

Here's a comparison between a genuine Seal on the back of a HI COLB, and one from factcheck.

Can't tell you any more...half the time I don't understand what I am looking at.

The factcheck images are still up:

BORN IN THE USA. LINK

107 posted on 04/25/2011 11:46:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: LyinLibs

Rofl!


108 posted on 04/26/2011 12:01:34 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Steelfish
In order to see what happens when someone born in Hawaii requests a birth certificate, CNN asked a current resident of the state -- Stig Waidelich -- if he could get a copy of the document. Waidelich was born just hours after Obama in August 1961. Like Obama, Waidelich's birth was announced at the time in the Honolulu Star Bulletin newspaper.

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STIG WAIDELICH: I wish that this Stig Waidelich would post his short form birth certificate on the internet, the one that CNN paid $7 for, so that we could compare it to Obama'a short form certificate that we see on Obama's Fight the Smears site and the one that we see on FactCheck's site

Questions I would like to ask him:

What hospital was he born in?

Who was his doctor? Maybe the doctor remembers Obama.

If his parents are still living and he was born at Kapiolani Hospital, do his parents remember anything about Obama being born in the hospital back in Aug. 1961?

1. So if anyone out there knows this Stig Waidelich, could you talk him into displaying his short form birth certificate on the internet so that we can examine it and compare it to Obama's short form that we see at Obama's Fight the Smears site? Thanks.

2. BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENTS IN THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER: I'm sorry CNN reporterTuchman---I have had great respect for Tuchman's reports over the years--- but you made a reporting mistake: You showed Obama's birth announcement in the newspaper, an announcement that did NOT list the birth hospital.

3. But then you showed a picture of Kapiolani Hospital, when you know for a fact that Obama's birth hospital is not listed in the birth announcement.

4. Why did you do that? Did you think we were stupid?

5. Again, how do you know that Obama was born in Kapiolani Hospital, when a hospital name is not listed for anyone in the birth announcements?

6. Could you please publicly correct your error? Thanks.

7. DEAR TUCHMAN: If the Nordyke twins were born in Kapiolani hospital just a day after Obama, then why was the Nordyke twins birth announcement in the papers several days after Obama's birth announcement, if indeed Obama was born in Kapiolani Hospital like the twins?

8, NOTE TO TUCHMAN: The Nordyke twins' long form birth certificate can be found at several places on the internet. Many people refer to the Nordyke twins' long form birth certificates when they want to cite a Hawaii long form birth certificate from back in Aug. 1961.

109 posted on 04/26/2011 12:39:26 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Steelfish
While the president has made light of the controversy...

While spending a couple of million of bucks to thwart the truth?

110 posted on 04/26/2011 12:56:19 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: M1911A1

You’ve got yourself a scary
but very plausible theory there.
Rev Manning put out a video tonight that touches on this.


111 posted on 04/26/2011 1:18:55 AM PDT by blockhead51 (Oust the Evil Socialist Usurper!)
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To: jonrick46

“Here is a good discussion of Sections 57-8, 9, 18, 19, 20 & 40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/clearing-the-smoke-june10/";

Excellent! Cooper has no journalistic integrity, at all. What a liar he and CNN is for not disclosing this information. It makes me rage (literally). What liars. It just shows how low and far they will go to lie for Obama.


112 posted on 04/26/2011 3:32:00 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: All

BTW, how do we get information to Mr. Trump? email address? Thanks to everyone for their hard work.


113 posted on 04/26/2011 3:39:41 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

BUMP for Truth!

ps: anyone with a link to the list of documents Ozero has sealed? IIRC, there are >20 that he has locked away.


114 posted on 04/26/2011 3:47:15 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: newfreep

List of sealed documents and assorted scandals

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2523741/posts


115 posted on 04/26/2011 3:50:28 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: All

Second email sent to Anderson Cooper:

Update to my last email:

Here is the article with the cites for proof that children born outside the state of Hawaii could have received a COLB. (Hawaii Statutes)

http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/clearing-the-smoke-june10/

Unless you include this information in your reporting, you are all liars. The fact remains that Obama could have been born in Kenya or anywhere else outside the U.S. and still have the COLB he has posted online. That is a fact.


116 posted on 04/26/2011 3:52:33 AM PDT by Philsworld
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To: john mirse

Maybe one of Trump’s investigators could contact Stig Waidelich for the info and images, and then get it posted on the Internet somewhere.


117 posted on 04/26/2011 3:54:08 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Steelfish

Thank God! Now if we can just get Jane Fonda to admit her actual age!!!!!


118 posted on 04/26/2011 3:54:55 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Doc Savage

Here’s a mulatto marxist muslim moron who has NO idea who his real father was, or where he was born, or why he had a ‘father’ for a while but NEVER actually co-habitated with him at ANY time, who had another ‘father’ who was a muslim in a foreign country who adopted him, who has only a handful of childhood friends who even remotely remember the guy, who did crack and grass, flunked out of Occidental College but somehow got into Columbia???, where NO one recalls ever having seen him or had him in a class, there are no grades, no SAT’s no PSAT, No LSat but he’s accepted into the Harvard??????Law School where he’s elected President of the Law Review over 20 other stiffs, yet NEVER EVER authored ANY legal paper on anything, who is reputed to be a closet homosexual, who operated as a bag man for the Chicago Mafia, cooked the books on an illegal house and lot sale that you and I would be in prison for, got his wife a NO SHOW $350,000/year hospital job when she didn’t know squat about anything, claimed to have written two books, one of which got him elected although it’s been conclusively proven he did NOT write EITHER, only spent 135 days in the US Senate and racked up the most LIBERAL voting record of ANY Senator in history, He is anti-American, anti-military, anti-Constitution. He hates America, loves third world dictators, and his ultimate goal is to destroy America forever!


119 posted on 04/26/2011 4:08:03 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Steelfish

CNN, Tokyo Rove and the Trump haters agree, “Move along nothing to see here. He was born in the USA!”
Who can argue with such august people?


120 posted on 04/26/2011 4:29:33 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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