Obama, almost entirely (except for the obvious), took after his mother's side of the family.
Stanley Ann Dunham(BHO's mother), with her father/Obama's grandfather
Posted on 04/25/2011 6:37:14 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage
Manhattan real estate mogul Donald Trump suggested in an interview Monday that President Barack Obama had been a poor student who did not deserve to be admitted to the Ivy League universities he attended. Trump, who is mulling a bid for the Republican presidential nomination, offered no proof for his claim but said he would continue to press the matter as he has the legitimacy of the president's birth certificate.
"I heard he was a terrible student, terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?" Trump said in an interview with The Associated Press. "I'm thinking about it, I'm certainly looking into it. Let him show his records."
Obama graduated from Columbia University in New York in 1983 with a degree in political science after transferring from Occidental College in California. He went on to Harvard Law School, where he graduated magna cum laude 1991 and was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review.
Obama's 2008 campaign did not release his college transcripts, and in his best-selling memoir, "Dreams From My Father," Obama indicated he hadn't always been an academic star. Trump told the AP that Obama's refusal to release his college grades were part of a pattern of concealing information about himself.
"I have friends who have smart sons with great marks, great boards, great everything and they can't get into Harvard," Trump said. "We don't know a thing about this guy. There are a lot of questions that are unanswered about our president.
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As far as I can tell - anyone with top 1% level horsepower knows what Obama is within about the first 15 minutes - if not 15 seconds.
Everything about the guy screams Affirmative Action. Sentence structure, word usage, thought patterns, non-facility with numbers - even lack of sense of humour.
If Obama were who he claims to be - he would sound like Coulter. And Coulter’s Law degree is “only” UMichigan. but the thought pace, facility with thoughts and ideas, etc - even the ironic sense of humour - Obama has none of that - he is a dullard.
Real Harvard Law types - are so smart they scare smart people.
“President George W. Bush had a SAT combined of 1214. That would get him into Cal Tech, in the top half of the class”
Please send me as much as you can spare of what you are smoking.
Current Caltech average is 1520 combined. (Although test has been adjusted up about 50 points from historical scores). In Bushies day - average would have been near 1400+ range.
Bush’s scores were good enough - back in his time period - to not be a total embarrasment at Yale. he wasn’t in a technical degree - but would stil lhave certainly been in the lower 25%ile of students.
A better indicator of Bush is his flight school data =- where he did pretty well. i don’t remember the specifics - but those folks don’t tolerate dummies.
At the graduation, the ones who graduate with honors are usually listed in the program. The classmates generally know who the top students are. Has anyone that was at the school with Obama confirmed that he graduated with high honors? That would surprise me, given that he seems like a total dumbass to me.
Listen, Trump is not doing this on his own. What we have here is Trump, with the backing of big, big, money, taking on the Dude and his gang from Chicago. Trump is the front man. And I will bet ya Hilary, along with Bill, is feeding, and directing Trump. What we have is a battle among our rulers. And I believe, very few in the press, is in the know. Good night, my fellow Americans, and God Bless.
That’s why I voted for him. Obama is an affirmative action baby - I understand that. I still think he went to Harvard.
Bump!
Ever debate a lifelong academic? There are certain speech patterns, words and ideas they all use. Obama sounds like that. But mostly in his earlier recordings. His speech has been incredibly dumbed down for the masses in recent times. I am not saying he is smart but he is trained. Like all people who spend countless years in academia.
Yes, and so are many state school graduates. There are smart people everywhere, and the Ivies absolutely do not have a monopoly on them. I'm not saying that you said they did. I'm just saying that an Ivy degree does not automatically designate superior education or intelligence.
I would vote for that too.
Heck, I don’t even think we’ve seen a graduation picture. Who doesn’t have a cap and gown picture at their college graduation?
Correct. As previously stated the President of the HLR is elected by the student body...nothing that a slick, well-financed Saudi campaign couldn’t do. But Editors are chosen by the faculty based on their intellect, grades, etc.
Obama, almost entirely (except for the obvious), took after his mother's side of the family.
Stanley Ann Dunham(BHO's mother), with her father/Obama's grandfather
Yeah that’s because Bobby Rush kicked his skinny mulatto butt to the curb when Ø ran for the 1st CD in IL. Rush called him “some Harvard talking fool” or some such.
Exactly, they use certain buzz phrases and arguments over and over. Usually in a hushed NPR tone and to the person who isn’t paying attention, it sounds smart. When you are paying attention and you encounter enough of them, you recognize the patterns. I detest them all.
Hey Barack Hussein Obama (Song)
http://www.khow.com/pages/boyles.html?article=8485316
Hit the “play button”, you won’t be disappointed!!!
There is nothing wrong with a law student including on a resume a reference to a law review Note or Comment he or she wrote. When I was involved in law student hiring I regularly saw those, and sometimes even went back and read some of the published material cited by students I was scheduled to interview.
The significance of this in Obama's case is that he has never taken credit, so far as I know, for anything published in the Harvard Law Review. This means either (a) he never wrote anything that was published, or (b) the stuff he wrote and got published is so bad or so inconsequential that he won't take credit for it. Frankly, either (a) or (b) is highly unusual for someone chosen as President of the Harvard Law Review. As I said, it screams "Affirmative Action Baby."
Afraid I have to part company with you on that one. I have known and worked with a lot of HLS graduates. They are all smart, but I did not find them to be "scary smart" to any greater or lesser degree than graduates of other good law schools. In the practice of law in a top law firm, being smart is one of many skill sets a young lawyer needs to have. Peronality, common sense, work ethic and good judgment are important too. I have known HLS graduates who lacked some of these other skill sets and whose careers tanked. Fortunately for them, academia remains in awe of a HLS degree and doesn't worry so much about those other skill sets.
Interesting to read your comparison of HLS graduates compared to others.
For a while I’ve suspected that prestige is the greatest benefit of a HLS degree - not necessarily evidence of being better than anyone else.
My son, who is in the tech world, had to work with someone from Harvard - he said the guy was smart but his arrogance worked against him.
I wonder if our observational differences are generational -
I’m 50.
I also will admit - I don’t think I know any harvard law grads. Maybe they are just more “Harvard types” similar to undergrad? As you seem to point out. Could it be - as bad as H ugrad - the toughest part is getting in?
I may be caught having made an assumption here.
Yes - but the contribution to society by state school grads is not the topic.
And although - in general - I agree - the location does not confer intelligence - I wil lalso note that just the act of being more selective yeidls a higher %age of successful intelligentsia.
But this is a complex topic - many kids who would be A students as engineers or Chemistry majors at State schools are drop outs or “change major” at Ivys.
For example - of the 17 kids in my Frat year - 3 Drs, 4 MBAs (some even doing constructive work), a few technical PHds, a few other millionaire business men (who did better than the technical guys), a few went the Christian route - so grade on a different scale. And we had a few dissapointments - who are only regular professional guys. And this is in a jock frat, some of these guys in NY State school, etc. A little less partying and maybe we would have had 5 Drs. Of the group - only two had connections - which helped, but was not the core of their success.
Not being judgemental - I’m advising my kids to go to State school - get 4.0, rather than kill themselves for 3.2. But it is what it is.
My point is - none of those guys are libtards.
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